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    QUOTE (Wild Card @ Dec 3 2008, 21:31 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    speechless.gif I think that a good part of the answer to much of this has been in front of us all along; and I apologize for not having recognized it before blush.gif .

    In the naval uniform photo, Bareebin has two Orders of Glory and a Victory in Europe medal. This would indicate that the picture was taken sometime between May of 1945 (Victory) and May of 1946 (award of Glory 1st class). So, he was most likely straight army/infantry during the course of the war and then, for an indefinite time served in an unknown capacity that called for a naval uniform. This would also explain the army guards badge on the naval uniform, as pointed out by Rick.

    Make sense?

    Wild Card,

    Possibly. As noted above, however, the Navy switched to the standard Guards badge during the war. Since Barybin left active duty in September 1945 and returned to civilian life (his bio entry makes no reference to continued/subsequent military service), there would have been only four-five months for him to serve in the Navy. This seems very improbable to me - especially if he went from the most senior Army NCO rank to that of a basic seaman.

    You might also consider contacting one of the researchers to see if they can access the Navy archives to get a definitive answer on Barybin's potential naval service.

    Regards,

    slava1stclass

    Wild Card,

    Were you ever able to confirm Barybin did in fact serve in the navy?

    Regards,

    slava1strclass

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    Gentlemen,

    The best I can offer - Gds. Sr. Sgt. Pytor Nickoliavitch Bareebin who ultimately became a Cavalier of the Order of Glory - four wound stripes.

    Wild Card,

    Here is a wartime image of Guards Airborne Sergeant Major and Full Cavalier of the Order of Glory P.N. Barybin in his army uniform. After reviewing his various award recommendations on the Russian MinDef site, I can confirm there is no reference to naval service. I can also confirm three light wounds as received on 12.1.43, 3.8.43 and 5.5.44 respectively.

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    slava1stclass

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    Gents,

      Until happening upon these images, I had not realized the Russian Federation Armed Forces had reintroduced the wound stripe.

      HRF Senior Praporshchik Grigoriy S. Kirichenko wears the gold wound stripe (severe wound) and HRF Lt Colonel Alexandr L. Sterzhantov wears the red wound stripe (light wound).  Each was awarded the Hero of the Russian Federation title (June 21, 1995, and September 25, 1999, respectively) for action against Chechen insurgents in the North Caucasus.

    Regards,

    slava1stclass

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    On ‎11‎/‎08‎/‎2008 at 17:40, Paul R said:

     

     

     

    Thanks Marc. Has anyone ever seen a blue stripe before?

     

    On ‎11‎/‎08‎/‎2008 at 09:44, Lapa said:

     

     

     

    Paul,

     

    Red stripe: Heavy wound

    Yellow stripe: Light wound

     

    and unofficially, Blue stripe: concussion

     

    Marc

    Probably "Contusion" rather than "Concussion" .  The distinguishing of "wounds" ("rany")  from "contusions" ("kontuzii") in casualty reports is an old Imperial Russian thing. I think it means a difference between an injury that breaks the skin and one that does not.

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