medalnet Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Never having had in mind to lead my collecting interests away from enameled order decorations, I received this little group of medals with yesterday?s mail. The possible recipient was a man named: ?Schmidt?, which is unfortunately all the grand daughter could tell me. She was kind enough to take a picture of her ancestor and email it to me.You will see him wearing besides the Iron Cross the Russian St.George Cross, which unfortunately didn?t survive the last 192 years.Yet the 1813/1814 combatant medal survived and seemed to have been worn on an interesting ribbon. Made in one weave, it represents the Iron Cross ribbon as well as the ribbon of the commemorative medal itself. His 1848/49 commemorative medal survived as well.About the Iron Cross: the Iron core rattles and it looks like it was soldered on the top left frame tip, only. Besides, it is rather thick with about ~2.5 mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 ...and the reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 ...and the recipient: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 A grouping not easily bested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 A grouping not easily bested. This is the first 1813 grouping I have ever seen! Nice find!!Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) Having finally (FINALLY) brought this group home for detailed scanning, I may as well add it here. Andreas will recognise it. See also: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2328 Edited November 1, 2005 by Ed_Haynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Reverse- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Close up on EK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Thanks Ed, I could not remember who posted this little gem up that came from Andreas. I think "rare" does not even begin to describe these two gems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Murphy Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Andreas, A super group, it is extremely rare for a grouping to have survived so long. To have a picture of the recipient wearing it is icing on the cake. Ed, I have seen yours before, but it is still a stunner. The condition is so much more than anyone can dream of, for being that old. Dan Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notned Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 WOW! thanks Ed,I have never seen an 1813 medalbar!Andreas, your group is Magnificent! thanks for showing!RgeardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) Having finally (FINALLY) brought this group home for detailed scanning, I may as well add it here. Andreas will recognise it. Yes, I do. this is the reason why I needed a new one. Let me know when I can have it back Edited November 1, 2005 by medalnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Congratulations, Ed. That is a very special bar with a very interesting mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Andreas, could we please get a really good scan of that combination ribbon please? I believe this is the earliest example of this practice that we have seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunsho Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 ....I can provide another one....Best regardsMatthias (www.kunsho.com)[attachmentid=16738] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Oh . . . that is especially nice. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Matthias, Willkommen zu Forum! Thanks for showing us this very nice bar. What is the third medal?MfG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunsho Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hi,thanks a lot.The third one is Imperial Russia, Medal for (the campaign) 1812 in silver for officers with the ribbon of the Wladimir Order (a blue ribbon was for noncombatants).Best regardsMatthias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Nice stuff!!! It has always seemed to me that an 1813 EK was necassary for any collection. it is sort of the beginning of it all . May I ask what these cost, or a general idea of an 1813 single or on a bar etc.? I am going to have to save up for one.Thanks, Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 A little bird has told me that there were several nice 1813 crosses at Kassel....... anyone with photos, please add them in or start a new thread!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Its unbelievable i missed this thread Awesome groups and Medal-bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 All very nice. I've never seen so many '13 EK's. Beautiful.Ed,I've never seen such a wide frame on a '13 EK. Not that I've seen that many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) ...and the recipient:Hello ! Can you send me the big photo of this picture ? Please !Russian Cross from my collection http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtopic=1...indpost&p=12469 Thank you !Best Regards,Igor O. Edited February 27, 2006 by Igor Ostapenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 WOW, Very nice medal bars. These are the first 1813 bars i have seen as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byf Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Very nice indeed. Thanks.byf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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