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Never having had in mind to lead my collecting interests away from enameled order decorations, I received this little group of medals with yesterday?s mail.

The possible recipient was a man named: ?Schmidt?, which is unfortunately all the grand daughter could tell me. She was kind enough to take a picture of her ancestor and email it to me.

You will see him wearing besides the Iron Cross the Russian St.George Cross, which unfortunately didn?t survive the last 192 years.

Yet the 1813/1814 combatant medal survived and seemed to have been worn on an interesting ribbon. Made in one weave, it represents the Iron Cross ribbon as well as the ribbon of the commemorative medal itself. His 1848/49 commemorative medal survived as well.

About the Iron Cross: the Iron core rattles and it looks like it was soldered on the top left frame tip, only. Besides, it is rather thick with about ~2.5 mm.

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A grouping not easily bested. :beer:

This is the first 1813 grouping I have ever seen! Nice find!!

Paul

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Thanks Ed, I could not remember who posted this little gem up that came from Andreas. I think "rare" does not even begin to describe these two gems!

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Andreas,

A super group, it is extremely rare for a grouping to have survived so long. To have a picture of the recipient wearing it is icing on the cake. Ed, I have seen yours before, but it is still a stunner. The condition is so much more than anyone can dream of, for being that old.

Dan Murphy

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WOW! thanks Ed,

I have never seen an 1813 medalbar!

Andreas, your group is Magnificent! thanks for showing!

Rgeards

Paul

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Having finally (FINALLY) brought this group home for detailed scanning, I may as well add it here. Andreas will recognise it.

Yes, I do. :unsure: this is the reason why I needed a new one. ;)

Let me know when I can have it back :blush:

Edited by medalnet

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Andreas, could we please get a really good scan of that combination ribbon please? I believe this is the earliest example of this practice that we have seen!

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....I can provide another one....

Best regards

Matthias

(www.kunsho.com)

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Matthias, Willkommen zu Forum! Thanks for showing us this very nice bar. What is the third medal?

MfG!

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Hi,

thanks a lot.

The third one is Imperial Russia, Medal for (the campaign) 1812 in silver for officers with the ribbon of the Wladimir Order (a blue ribbon was for noncombatants).

Best regards

Matthias

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Nice stuff!!! It has always seemed to me that an 1813 EK was necassary for any collection. it is sort of the beginning of it all ;) . May I ask what these cost, or a general idea of an 1813 single or on a bar etc.? I am going to have to save up for one.

Thanks, Sal

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A little bird has told me that there were several nice 1813 crosses at Kassel....... anyone with photos, please add them in or start a new thread!!

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All very nice. I've never seen so many '13 EK's. Beautiful.

Ed,

I've never seen such a wide frame on a '13 EK. Not that I've seen that many... :blush:

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WOW, Very nice medal bars. These are the first 1813 bars i have seen as well.

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