nesredep Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hello!I bought this on a Norway Militariashow.I like opinion and Comment. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nesredep Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 NesredepHello!All photos is the same U-BOOT BADGE.I thke in different light.All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gordon Williamson Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Nice original example of the type generally attributed to Juncker of Berlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Nice original example of the type generally attributed to Juncker of Berlin.Hello!Wow, thanks for help.I bought this 2/5-2009 in a Militaria show here in Norway (220?). All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Nice original example of the type generally attributed to Juncker of Berlin.Hello!GordonIs this badge,Zinc ?? Tombak ?? Thanks for help. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Its a Zinc one. The retaining clip on Tombak examples is soldered directly to the badge. On Zinc pieces it is soldered to a small metal disc which is then affixed to the badge. Soldering a narrow clip to the Zink would result in a very weak joint. The bigger surface area of the disc makes for a stronger joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Arne S Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) Hi Guys !Nice U-Boot Badge , Nep! Not any rules without exeptions , hand inspection it look like Tombak to my , but light was not best where we look at it . Was never in doubt that this was a real badge , beleived to be made by Juncker . But still a very nice badge for a good price . Here is one of Mine .Jan Arne Edited May 6, 2009 by Jan Arne S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Arne S Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Back of mine , most have been in Water for a time .Have had a hard life . Jan Arne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Interesting that this thread just came up since Gordon discussed it with me just a few days ago based on another zinc example that looked like it was made of tombak. Juncker apparently made such a high quality zinc badge that it fools you into thinking in was tombak. The hardware suggests otherwise however especially since Juncker did have a tombak version with the correct tomak hardware.IMO, all the badges posted are high quality zinc Juncker badges and relatively rare. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hello!Jan Arne recomented me to clean up the badge.Beneath the dirt,I found rust ? Interesting.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hello!Badge before clean up.All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Its a Zinc one. The retaining clip on Tombak examples is soldered directly to the badge. On Zinc pieces it is soldered to a small metal disc which is then affixed to the badge. Soldering a narrow clip to the Zink would result in a very weak joint. The bigger surface area of the disc makes for a stronger joint.Hello!Gordon Thanks for this interesting information. I have seen Tomback badge with this small metal disc.All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Can you show an example of the Tombak badge with this small disc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Hello!Gordon Thanks for this interesting information. I have seen Tomback badge with this small metal disc.All the bestNesredepHello!Gordon I mean this All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Can you show an example of the Tombak badge with this small disc ?Hello!GordonNo.I have seen another German Tombak Badge with this small disc. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Here is one of the Zinc Junckers I owned. This one was sold to me as Tombak. (The seller refunded part of the payment when I pointed out it was Zinc. If you find one of these with a nice toned finish it can look very much like tombak and the weight isn't significantly different either.However, as well as the use of the disc for mounting the retaining clip, there is a visible difference in die characteristics between Zinc and Tombak examples,Look at the area above the stern of the boat which is circled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Now look at the Tombak version and you will see, in this same position, the tip of an additional leaf just showing above the stern of the boat.Whatever it looks and feels like, if this leaf tip is missing and it has the retaining clip mounted on a disc - it is a Zinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Now look at the Tombak version and you will see, in this same position, the tip of an additional leaf just showing above the stern of the boat.Whatever it looks and feels like, if this leaf tip is missin ::g and it has the retaining clip mounted on a disc - it is a Zinker. Hello!GordonThanks for all interesting information and point. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hello!Jan Arne recomented me to clean up the badge.Beneath the dirt,I found rust ? Interesting.All the best NesredepHello!Whay rust ??All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) That's a very nice piece Nes...good pick up mate! The Juncker-attributed badge is my favourite of the U-Boot badges...Cheers, S Edited October 2, 2009 by Steve P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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