Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Here is my King's Dragoon Guards helmet of the 1847 pattern. It came with a quilted cloth cover and a transit tin with appropriate label. The KDGs served in India from 1857 - 1860 and took part in the Mutiny fighting. Edited May 24, 2009 by Stuart Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 With cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Side view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) With cover. Edited May 24, 2009 by Stuart Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 The transit tin showing the baggage label Madras to Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Fantastic, Stuart! I love those cavalry helmets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Hi Mike,funny but I went off cavalry helmets a few years ago and concentrated on Blue Cloths, forage caps and sun helmets. Especially the last (see my topic on Military Sun Helmets).However, here is a photo of my cavalry collection although it is a little out of date.Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 You've got more examples of things you've gone off than I've got of things I'm gone on. Lovely lids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Very funny, Leigh. I guess that I have just been lucky but I would love to see your collection.I only collect headdress, but I think your collecting ranges much wider.StuartPS: Fuller's London Pride and/or Double Diamond Edited May 24, 2009 by Stuart Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Stuart - Fantastic !! I read your IM before opening - I will hold back on my 1st Dragoon Helmet for now. Some 35 years ago I decided to start a serious collection - the choice was between Helmets or, Police. Still in the Met. then , I decided on Police -partly because helmets take-up space. I have often wished I had made the other decision - and seeing your collection - and it is obviously only part - I wish I could have afforded both. You should put your collection on that display sub-forum, where all members could see it . Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 WOW! I love the Victorian style helmets, but I see you also have one of my older favorites. I don't know the proper name for it, but it's the one with the tremendous black fur crest on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Mike,you mean this one? It is the 1818 pattern and to the 2nd Dragoon Guards. It's a heavy bugger so the DGs must have been large men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Mervyn,I hope to get the collection professionally photographed as a whole this week. When it's done I will post.Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Mike,you mean this one? It is the 1818 pattern and to the 2nd Dragoon Guards. It's a heavy bugger so the DGs must have been large men.Yes, that's the one! It looks like it would be heavy. In all of the paintings and drawings I've seen of soldiers and officers wearing this model helmet they looked amazingly graceful, although a bit top heavy! Edited May 25, 2009 by Mike Dwyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Stuart, the shako that is on the same shelf as the 1818 heavy dragoon helmet, is that an early hussar shako from the pre-busby days or a light dragoon shako, the predecessors of the hussars? Edited May 25, 2009 by Mike Dwyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Mike,I don't know to what unit that shako belongs but it is early Victorian period. I bought it from Blunderbuss in London many years ago but they could not identify it and I haven't been able to since. It might be a Yeomanry unit but, as I say, I haven't been able to identify it.Tomorrow I will look at it again and probably post it as a separate topic for ID. Someone out there will know :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 ..................PS: Fuller's London Pride and/or Double DiamondAre those the empty bottles you're using as display stands? (I actually have a few pikelhauben propped up on empty lager cans at the moment, prior to sorting out my display area). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Leigh,I use perspex tubes which I have now covered with black stockings to give a better look. I had little cushions made up and these fit in the crown of the helmet and cushion (yes I meant that) the helmet from the edge of the tube as well as distribute the weight better.My photographer friend Nick was up here yesterday to photograph that ADC's Wolseley and so I had him do the collection as a whole as well. When he has finished editing the photos I will post in the collections area.Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Brilliant, I look forward to a guided tour on thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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