azyeoman Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 This is a fabulous thread with some most interesting portraits, and exceptionally beautiful decorations. I hope some people will continue to post new portraits and medals. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Second type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 17/07/2022 at 21:31, Graf said: This Second Type is part of Medal Grouping supposedly awarded to the Navy Officer on the portait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1/2 size Second Model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1./2 Size 4th Type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Graf Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 18/02/2023 at 00:59, Graf said: There is a problem the LOH and the clasp This clasp is probably British added later on to enhance the value of the Order. The problem is over a Century gap between two of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Hi Graf, I literally knew nothing about these until I read this thread tonight. I now know enough to prove just how little I know! But… I wanted to see what possible connection between the ‘Sebastopol’ bar and your LOH there could be. & I’m ever optimistic so here I go! In 1856 the French agreed to the British issuing Crimea medals to 93,000 French involved in the campaign. The medals and bars, delivered separately, did not get successfully. 👇 Medals without bars = bars without medals. As these bars/clasps were in France, are known to have been loose and separate from the British medals in large numbers, I think that explains where it came from. I’m a cocky twat, I’d love to prove against the odds that the cross is from the mid 1800’s! 🙃 But I can’t work out which type LOH it is you have to date it, which obviously matters. Using the circled reference points I compared it to this chart of the different types… None of them matched yours using this and then I then found other images that were Inconsistent with the above so thought best to stop for now and ask you which it is… Even if there is 50years between them I’d still rather believe they’ve spent 150+ years together in a drawer or tin together… tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Hi You have done a nice research Congrats The cross is First Empire Second model with fixed crown There is other variation of this model with mobile crown See picture beloow The period is 1805-1808 The second and third models on your picture They are Officers in Gold the one listed is Knight in Silver The Sebastopol campaign was in 1856 The time difference is 40 years between this model LOH and the Clasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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