speagle Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 1. Female Constable to Sgt.2. Portsmouth City Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 You obviously like Scottish - not sure of the vintage of this WPC's 'bowler' - I'm sure Leigh can help . Does it have the special protective inner liner.The original police who manned the dockyards in Victorian times, were all drawn from 'A' Division of the Metropolitan Police. I'm not sure of the date when they set-up a special force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) I see now that this is Portsmouth City Helmet - and not Dockyard. The town police had no authority inside the dockyard.This is a very early truncheon for the Dockyard Police - V1R - means Queen Victoria 1st. - however, they stopped putting the 1st. on after about 1840.Several other dockyards also used this style of truncheon - it is weighted with lead at the top. Edited July 23, 2009 by Mervyn Mitton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 The females lid came in, I think, in the late 1980's, replaing the little soft top "Robin Hood" type hat. The tombstone is seen worn behind or in front of the band, some forces don't wear it at all. They're of thick felt, reinforced inside with a thick wedge of padding in the top, & have a narrow webbing harness. They're usually shaped by setting in the steam of a kettle, the rim being turned up at the sides & narrowed at the front - this one needs a bit of shap[ing.White PVC covers are worn on them by traffic, or have all forces gone over to fluorescent yellow cap covers for traffic now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speagle Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Thanks to all for the information. I appreciate each of you making time to post everything. I do have more items I'll be posting as the days go by. Hope to get more insights from all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Leigh - never heard it called that before - but a fitting description. We used to shape our Aussie slouch hat with the help of a kettle - I think we also soaked them and used clothes pegs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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