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    New additions to my Mongolian collection


    Bob

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    - Medal of the State's Prize of the MPR (Marshal Choibalsan variant in original box - A6.1)

    - Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR (very rare unnumbered version - J03)

    - 4 orders of the red combat banner in beautiful condition (1: 2218 2:294 3: 129 4: 10)

    - Medal for unselfishness (nr 188 A40.2)

    - Medal of Friendship (nr 11852)

    - Medal Glory of the Virgin Lands (low number: 00031; A52.1)

    Will try to upload a picture in a minute.

    Bob

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    Hi Bob. i bought a Distinguished Herdsmans Badge a couple of years ago just because the design and the award-criteria are very uncommon and a perfect example for the socialistic attitude towards decorations.

    My type looks very different from yours (see pics). Did i buy a modern counterfeit or are there various types known.

    regards

    haynau

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    haynau,

    Your's is the more common type with a S/N on reverse.

    Lower S/N's tend to cost more otherwise your's is fine!

    Rusty.

    @HulliganRS,

    the backside of my herder-badge has the engraving "3255"

    I assume this i a higher S/N

    haynau

    PS. I have a second one at home. i'll check it's number aswell

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    haynau,

    Your's is the more common type with a S/N on reverse.

    Lower S/N's tend to cost more otherwise your's is fine!

    Rusty.

    Here, this will help:

    - name of medal

    - my number (- = I do not own it (yet))

    - lowest number observed

    - highest number observed

    - etc.

    Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR - 92 399 Type 1 Var 1 - Uighur script

    Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR - NA NA Type 2 Var 1 - Cyrillic

    Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR - 32 3,530 Type 3 Var 1 - Silver

    Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR 791 56 4,100 Type 3 Var 2 - Silver plated

    Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR NA NA NA Type 4 Var 1 - unnumbered (supposedly only 6 exist)

    I'm building all this kind of info into 1 excel sheet (using the Scandinavian expert input - forgot his name)

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    @HulliganRS,

    the backside of my herder-badge has the engraving "3255"

    I assume this i a higher S/N

    haynau

    PS. I have a second one at home. i'll check it's number aswell

    Yours looks like type 4: numbered, silver plated

    I own one of these as well.

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    OK, so here's the thing.... it's pretty hard to find Mongolian stuff other than a few select dealers. There's one guy flogging apparently every piece ever made in that country on eBay.... (part of the mint dump, I hear).... so is the Mongolian stuff as heavily reproduced as the Soviet??

    Thanks!

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    OK, so here's the thing.... it's pretty hard to find Mongolian stuff other than a few select dealers. There's one guy flogging apparently every piece ever made in that country on eBay.... (part of the mint dump, I hear).... so is the Mongolian stuff as heavily reproduced as the Soviet??

    Thanks!

    If it was... why take the trouble to sell so many shall we say 'rather common' and low priced medals?

    I have yet to come across an item which triggered me to think it was a purposeful fake but then again there is not much literature about this topic (unlike for instance the McDaniels book). The only 'fake' I've seen was the supposed wearers copy of a Sojombo on eBay a few weeks ago.

    Perhaps an equally interesting question... what if this supply of - let's assume - real items goes on and on and we were all wrong about the amount of items in circulation? Now there's a bad thought...

    It's a niche market... imagine if more people start to move from for instance Soviet to Mongolian awards?

    The way I see it... now is still the time to buy. I'm working hard to close the gaps in my collection... the affordable gaps that is.

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    FIRST the serial number/date gnomes have to work out what was awarded when-- and get some idea of total numbers of things.

    Early days still in this field. :cheers:

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