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Hello, just wanted to show a recent purchase which I believe is a Navy support badge of excellent workmanship, 22 mm. Maker marked under the needle, but unreadable to me. Enjoy!

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Very nice, may we see a picture of the reverse please?

I've never seen one of these without a name of a KDF ship across the bottom of the wheel!

Cheers

Don

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Hello Don, sorry for the late reply. Here's the reverse as requested. Do you have any info about the use of these?

Cheers, Lars

Hi Lars,

Thank you for posting the reverse. It's a damn shame that the maker mark can't be read, I've often wondered who made them.

I can't really provide much information about them. I've only seen KdF versions with the names of either "MS Wilhelm Gustloff" or "ES Robert Ley" on the lower part of the wheel. They can be found with various designs of flag on them (I'll post three of mine), until now I have not seen one with a maker mark or without a name on the front.

As to their use, according to JR Cone in his booklet "One People, One Reich", these were Crew members badges for the Yachts presented to Hitler, the "Eva", "Geli Raubel" & "Robert Ley". However there is no reference as to where he obtained this info & we now know that there are many mistakes in the book.

Angolia shows a couple of examples in his book "Labour Organisations of the Third Reich" & also lists them as crew members badges, but makes no other reference to them.

Personally my own feeling is that they were souvenir pins sold to the tourists on the KdF Cruise ships, but that is purely a theory.

Here's the first of mine a Gustloff with Party Flag.

Cheers

Don

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Good morning Don.

It was really interesting to see your 3 variants, beautiful pieces. I don't really collect 3 Reich, but I pick up the different organization pins and related items like these when I see them at reasonnable prices. When looking at your 2 different Gustloff I assume your therory about souvenir pins sold to the tourists on the KdF Cruise ships makes sense.

They are obviously made by the same company so when I get the time I'll try to play a little with a camera to try to get the maker.

Cheers, Lars

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Hello Don, just found this picture in my archive. It appeared on a local internet auction appr. a year ago and I kept the pic. The quality cannot be better as this is the original picture. Just for your amusement! Wonder how many different there is?

Regards, Lars

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Thank you Dan, it's a pleasure.

Lars,

Thank you for posting this last picture. The colour of the white worries me as it look "too white" if you know what I mean, also the quality of the enamel doesn't look as good as the others. However, this could just be down to the poor quality of the image...

Cheers

Don

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My thought is souvenir at least the one I have. It is incredibly light weight unlike say your average membership badge. No one can really know for sure. Maybe someday they will pop-up in an obscure catalogue. Come to think of it, I have a few KdF magazines loaded with ads for diferent trips, etc. Perhaps there are souvenir ads? Not a better thing to do on A saturday night. I will just have to fib on Monday when someone invariably asks me what I did over the weekend!!

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Hi

I am new to this forum, and would like to introduce myself.

I am a collector of ship wheel enamel pin badges, and have noticed on this site a few mentions of a badge for the ship        Wilhelm Gustloff and Robert Leys.

Would any one know where I could purchase one or more of these items for my collection.

Your help would be appreciated

Regards

Bill Hoffman

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Hi guys !

I only have 5 of them but what I can say is that the one is the marine flag and Kiel at the bottom is original. The Name of the town KIEl is written by hand with enemal paint which is today to expensive to do. I also have one with KIEL with the party flag instead of the marine flag.

Regards

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