fjcp Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 #2009 available on ebay for a buy it now price of $4400item#150308257630looks minty.JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 #2009 available on ebay for a buy it now price of $4400item#150308257630looks minty.JCLocation: concord, CA, MongoliaNever knew Arnold was governor of a part of Mongolia:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 #2009 available on ebay for a buy it now price of $4400item#150308257630looks minty.JCWhen I compare SB prices (remember... 2000 of them) vs. Soyombo (e.g. 10k on collect russia, low number of only 400 or so) and am assuming that SB prices are "appropriate" (after all, we can track over last 2-3 years the gradual increase), I'm left thinking that Soyombo's will soon rocket to well over 20k. Don't even want to start thinking about what a regular Hero Star will go for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjcp Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 When I compare SB prices (remember... 2000 of them) vs. Soyombo (e.g. 10k on collect russia, low number of only 400 or so) and am assuming that SB prices are "appropriate" (after all, we can track over last 2-3 years the gradual increase), I'm left thinking that Soyombo's will soon rocket to well over 20k. Don't even want to start thinking about what a regular Hero Star will go for...I don't know about those Soyombo prices though Bob.. That one on collectrussia hasn't gone anywhere in a month or so and with the current financial issues who knows.There has to be a limit to what people will pay for these things, Rare they are, but how many dedicated Mongolian collectors are out there?A handfull perhapsMakes me getting one seem less likely though!!CheersJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I don't know about those Soyombo prices though Bob.. That one on collectrussia hasn't gone anywhere in a month or so and with the current financial issues who knows.There has to be a limit to what people will pay for these things, Rare they are, but how many dedicated Mongolian collectors are out there?A handfull perhapsMakes me getting one seem less likely though!!CheersJCPerhaps, but this is the 3rd one he has (i think) in 12 months time... prices are jacked up almost 100% each time and after a few months they do sell.May be very few Mongolia collectors... but there's also not that much material to collect of course! Plus I do suspect Mongolia is a natural fringe area of collecting for Soviet collectors of which there are many. Also, the potential "price explosion" from research hasn't even materialized yet. One wonders also how many of the collectors for these high end items are so affected by the financial crisis that it really impacts their spending pattern... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'm not so sure ther will be a price explosion from research, seeing almost 95% or more are "just" long service awards.For most collectors here on the forum, that doesn't change anything but for most other collectors there needs to be some blood leaking out of the citation, before they will dive into their wallets.My two tugruksJan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I guess "wait and see" is the only thing we can do.Prices are rising as is... so I'd be surprised if research doesn't add to that. Soviet awards also aren't all for snipers in stalingrad who escaped via a submarine etc. etc. so I'm not going to be too picky... research is better than no research:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Basic economics. ECON 101, as I distantly recall. Supply and demand. Very limited supply. Demand? Maybe, depending on where we stand relative to 1929. Add to this the material composition of percious metals.When research comes, it will reveal one of several things:-- Award to a well-known individual for historical services (e.g., Choibalsan). Obviously not many.-- Awards paried with a hero star (military or labor).-- Awards for gallantrrey (or some such). I sincerely doubt there were many.-- Awards for some mix of meritorious and long service. These will come in both "military" and "civil" sub-types (and all degrees in between). Some (like many on this forum) will always denigrate civil awards.-- Simple ("simple"?) long-service awards, both military and civil. (As above)-- Unawarded "dump" from the State bank.Add to this the dimensions of (1) is in it a group? and (2) is it documented? and (3) both? And I get confused.For those fixated on (market) "value": Supply and demand. As my ECON 101 profdessor said long years ago, in a galaxy far, far away: "Any damned thing is 'worth' only what some damned fool is willing to pay for it on any given day." If, however, your sense of value runs to the virture or restoring history and content to a tedious -- even if pretty -- chunk of gold and platinum and enamel . . . well, then, you are my sort of person. It will be for my "heirs and assigns" to contend with "market value". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjcp Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Market Value is of interest to me for one reason and one reason only.It determines what I can and can't buy. I don't sell anything anyway, just can't bring myself to do it..Can't wait 'till I get a job JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Market Value is of interest to me for one reason and one reason only.It determines what I can and can't buy. I don't sell anything anyway, just can't bring myself to do it..Can't wait 'till I get a job JCIn that sense, JC, 'market value' screws us all. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Recent addition to my collection, nr 261It's had a difficult life, but I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 What's still for sale is priced high... sellers market apparently.RECENTLY SOLDpinback- USD 795, nr 857, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 740, nr 1.938, www.collectrussia.com - 1999- USD 780, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 2002- USD 945, nr 1.233, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2008- USD 2.000 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 1.925, nr 902, eBay - FEBRUARY 2008- USD 2.200, nr 1.617, somewhere in Russia - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 1.635, www.collectrussia.com - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 860, Nota Bene - APRIL 2008- USD 3.200, nr 1.600, www.collectrussia.com - APRIL 2008screwback- USD 820, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 1.375, nr 89, www.collectrussia.com - 2003- USD 985, nr 523, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.150, nr 519, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007- USD 3.250 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 3.225, nr 556, private seller - MAY 2008- USD 3.500, nr 261, Coinsell (on eBay) - SEPTEMBER 2008CURRENTLY FOR SALE- USD 5.800, nr 448 (screwback), www.collectrussia.com- USD 3.800, nr 1.388 (pinback), private seller- USD 4.400, nr 2.009 (pinback), eBayPREVIOUSLY FOR SALE BUT NOT REPORTED AS SOLDscrewback- USD 5.000, nr 227 (screwback), Coinsell (on eBay) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 RECENTLY SOLDpinback- USD 795, nr 857, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 740, nr 1.938, www.collectrussia.com - 1999- USD 780, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 2002- USD 945, nr 1.233, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2008- USD 2.000 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 1.925, nr 902, eBay - FEBRUARY 2008- USD 2.200, nr 1.617, somewhere in Russia - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 1.635, www.collectrussia.com - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 860, Nota Bene - APRIL 2008- USD 3.200, nr 1.600, www.collectrussia.com - APRIL 2008screwback- USD 820, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 1.375, nr 89, www.collectrussia.com - 2003- USD 985, nr 523, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.150, nr 519, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007- USD 3.250 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 3.225, nr 556, private seller - MAY 2008- USD 3.500, nr 261, Coinsell (on eBay) - SEPTEMBER 2008CURRENTLY FOR SALE- USD 3.500, nr 474 (screwback), eBay- USD 5.800, nr 448 (screwback), www.collectrussia.com- USD 3.800, nr 1.388 (pinback), private seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Unfortunately, the November 2008 San Georgio auction Sukhbaatar had neither the attachment style nor the number listed (I think, I cannot read Italian, and I think this hurt the sale), but it went at EUR 1700 (around $2129) -- plus fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjcp Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Number 1785 with case for sale on ebay right now. $3500 buy it now or $3000 starting bid...This one was sold by Alexei back in January '07 and it's posted here somewhere but not in this thread...JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Pinback, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Yes, pinback, item # 160302864312. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Alexei has # 1388 (pinback) for sale for 2,250 USD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 RECENTLY SOLDpinback- USD 795, nr 857, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 740, nr 1.938, www.collectrussia.com - 1999- USD 780, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 2002- USD 945, nr 1.233, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2008- USD 2.000 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 1.925, nr 902, eBay - FEBRUARY 2008- USD 2.200, nr 1.617, somewhere in Russia - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 1.635, www.collectrussia.com - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 860, Nota Bene - APRIL 2008- USD 3.200, nr 1.600, www.collectrussia.com - APRIL 2008- USD 2.250, nr 1.388, Nota Bene - January 2009screwback- USD 820, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 1.375, nr 89, www.collectrussia.com - 2003- USD 985, nr 523, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.150, nr 519, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007- USD 3.250 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 3.225, nr 556, private seller - MAY 2008- USD 3.500, nr 261, Coinsell (on eBay) - SEPTEMBER 2008CURRENTLY FOR SALE- USD 5.800, nr 448 (screwback), www.collectrussia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Bob , Hope everything is well over there ..Just a little update , i think the Screwback Sukhbaatar order which Collectrussia was selling , already Sold.All the Best , Avsar IbarRECENTLY SOLDpinback- USD 795, nr 857, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 740, nr 1.938, www.collectrussia.com - 1999- USD 780, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 2002- USD 945, nr 1.233, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2008- USD 2.000 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 1.925, nr 902, eBay - FEBRUARY 2008- USD 2.200, nr 1.617, somewhere in Russia - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 1.635, www.collectrussia.com - MARCH 2008- USD 2.750, nr 860, Nota Bene - APRIL 2008- USD 3.200, nr 1.600, www.collectrussia.com - APRIL 2008- USD 2.250, nr 1.388, Nota Bene - January 2009screwback- USD 820, nr ?, www.collectrussia.com - 1998- USD 1.375, nr 89, www.collectrussia.com - 2003- USD 985, nr 523, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.150, nr 519, www.collectrussia.com - 2004- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007- USD 3.250 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008- USD 3.225, nr 556, private seller - MAY 2008- USD 3.500, nr 261, Coinsell (on eBay) - SEPTEMBER 2008CURRENTLY FOR SALE- USD 5.800, nr 448 (screwback), www.collectrussia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) Finally managed to get my hands on a documented SB, and it's a screwback, nr 747 Edited May 11, 2009 by Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Pretty nice track record:Honorary medal of combatPolar star40 years medalOrder of the Red Banner of Combat ValorSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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