Vatjan Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) ORDER OF MILITARY MERIT aka Order of combat Service T1V1: Screwback - 5 rivets - flatbackT1V2: Screwback - 2 rivets - circular indention on reverseT2 1970's pinbackPIC: T1V1 Edited December 20, 2005 by vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 T1V2: Screwback - 2 rivets - circular indention on reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 T2 1970's pinback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Order of Military MeritType 1.1 (Screwback; flat reverse; 5 rivets)Low = 101 High = 840Type 1.2 (Screwback; circular indentation at center on reverse; 2 rivets)Low = 1038 High = 5873Type 2 (Pinback)Low = 6036 High = 87221049: 1/10/1959 2146: 00/06/19692695: 1972 Kuznetsov, Nikolaj Gerasimovitsh, Fleet Admiral USSR2777: 1971 Petrov, Vasilij Ivanovitsh, Marshal USSR5685: 27/03/1987 6515: 4/07/1991 Daramzhav, Radnaashjn8126: 9/08/1999 Nanzivdarn DendevSources:Eric and Janhttp://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=0http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=13http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН ?ЗА БОЕВЫЕ ЗАСЛУГИ?:http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...erviceOrder.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 (edited) A documented Order of Combat Valor set where all actually seems to be correct and in order! Edited April 14, 2006 by Ed_Haynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 The badge, type 1.2 (A 29), # 1552. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 The document, part one, no photo (how used are we to THAT?!?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 And the interesting part. Order of Combat Valor, #1552, 29 September 1964. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Who the heck were the Mongolians fighting in 1964?? Or is this more along the lines of the Soviet Military Merit Medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Indeed-- we've covered that in other threads. These continued to be long service awards. Why they simply never created long service medals is a mystery, but festooning "Orders" with grandious names fordotdotdotmere Time Servedis precisely the case.That is why I so strongly advocate ACCURATE translation of all theses as "Military" in place of "Combat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 (edited) OK, OK . . . . . . have it your way . . . . . . henceforth it'll be the Baildaani gav'yaany odon (since the forum won't take Mongolian).Are you happy now, Rick?? And what is an accurate ("accurate") translation of the Mongolian???? Edited April 14, 2006 by Ed_Haynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Who the heck were the Mongolians fighting in 1964?? Or is this more along the lines of the Soviet Military Merit Medal?And there were ongoing border clashes with the Chinese anyway . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I'll just post pix and point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Hi Ed, I leave the finer translation points to you and the Good Doctor... perhaps some language lessons this summer?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Hi Ed, I leave the finer translation points to you and the Good Doctor... perhaps some language lessons this summer?!!That is near the top of my "to do" list: consulting with Dr. B on accurate English names (for example, I am convinced it is the "Order of the Vajra", and it is just that he assumed, maybe rightly, that no English speakers had or were willing to use an English-language dictionary so it got a dumb translated name as the "Precious Rod"). While we need, when possible, to use correct names, we must start with what the awards are called in THEIR language rather than inventing English names that we wish had been used instead. There is also some value in consistency. I suspect we'll never get rid of the "Order of the Polar Star" naming even though the real name -- Algan gadas Odon -- is the Golden Stake Order. I suspect that if I spoke of the "Golden Stake Order", no non-Mongolian speaker would know what I was talking about. Unless, of course, I bothered to put it into print, and offer a revision of the previously accepted nomenclature. But, then, that might just be seen a sbeing too much work. I have actually started working, as best I can, on Mongolian. But why do I start it just as they are dropping the old foreign script and going back to one that works well for the language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 See also: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8184 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Whatever we call this thing, here's an effort at a renewed typology:Type 1.1 (Screwback; flat reverse; 5 rivets); Low = 101/High = 840; 1945-??Type 1.2 (Screwback; circular indentation at center on reverse; 2 rivets); Low = 1038/High = 5873; 19??-70Type 2.1 (Pinback, 4 rivets, silver); Low = 6036/High = 8722; 1970-2004Type 2.2 (pinback, bronze); Low = 7120/High = 9066; 2004?Will post some missing varieties here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Noticed we didn't have a Type 2.2 of the Baildaani gav'yaany odon (happy, Rick??) shown here, so here is the ugly thing. We might guess at the existence of a Type 2.3, unnumbered?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Not that there is much happening over here, but here are a couple of documentsd Baildaani gav'yaany odon sets, just to interrupt the silence. With later paper document: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 # 6972, 29 August 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 And . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) # 7388, 15 September 1995.Just 17 days and 416 numbers later that the previous set! Edited August 24, 2006 by Ed_Haynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Gaumann Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Anyone have a weight on any of these, specifically a T1V2 please?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjcp Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Anyone have a weight on any of these, specifically a T1V2 please?Thanks.Here are two I've got handy,T1V1 41.3g ( without screw plate)T2V1 48.4gJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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