The Prussian Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2010/post-6460-126615959236.jpgHello Gentlemen! I am looking for the exactly position of the german I.Btl./Fußartillerie-Regiment 10 in the period from the middle of may 1918 and end of june 1918. I need the position, when the bataillon belonged to the 3rd army. It changed from the 2nd army to the 3rd army some time in late may 1918. The reason because I´m looking for those informations is, thet I´ve got an original attack order indcluding an original transparent paper of the planning of a "Feuerwalze" (to lay upon a map - but the map is missed...). Unfortunately those documents are not dated. One general order about realising a "Feuerwalze" is dated 30th june 1918, the attack orders have earlier order-numbers, so I am sure, the attack was planned before the 30th june. They are all stamped by the 3rd army. And because of the I./Fußart.Rgt 10 changed between mid-may and end-june, I´d like to localize the area that should be attacked. Thanks a lot in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IrishGunner Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Very interesting documents. Wish I could help you with the FussArtl. Regt. Nr. 10 info... And I wish you luck. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) Thanx, IrishGunner! As far as I have found in the vol 14 of the "Reichsarchiv", the 3rd army stood in the 2nd half of june northeast of Chalons in preperation the big attack against Reims (they had to clear the south-east area of Reims). Beacuse of the first attacks agains Reims started in mid-july, I think, my documents are "not-executed-plans" in that time (maybe done in july) Edited February 14, 2010 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Very nice find indeed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have a Feuerwalze map for te Kaiserschlacht somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here's something just to make it even more interesting; According to "251 Divsions", 1. Abteilung, 10. Fussartl. Regt. 10 (Stab, 1., 3., 4. Batt) were part of the 1. Infantrie Division in 1918. This source has for the 1. Inf. Div: 19 April - 2 May; south of the Somme 2 May - early July; rest vicinity Peruwelz early July; in reserve near Hirson July 16-20; in the line at St. Hilaire During Reims the 1. Inf. Div. fought near Brois de Vrigney Of course, there is no reference specifically in this division history; the heavy artillery could have (and probably did) fire in support of other divisions/actions while the 1. Inf. Div was not in the line. But hopefully this narrows your search down from the 3. AOK level to a narrower area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here's possibly a good reference - if you can find it somewhere there in Germany: Helmuth Wendlandt: "Niedersächsisches Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 10 im Weltkriege 1914-1918" 1935 Berlin: Freyhoff in Oranienburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) Oh yes, I have that book too. But it´s not completely. The Footartillery didin´t belong to the Inf.Div.. They stood unbder diferent commands for several days or weeks. That book isn´t right for my search. I could need the regimentsl history (if there was one published...) Edited February 14, 2010 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Andy, see my other post - it is the regimental history for the Fussartl. Regt. 10 I hope you can find it in a library or other archive in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 Oh yes, thank you!!!! Here is a stor, where you can buy hundreds of regimental histories on CD. They cost between 5 and 10€ each. Maybe he´s got that one too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Here I want to show you the original plamns for a "Feuerwalze". In this case an attack from the Generalkommando XII. There are several field- and footart. units. But unfortunately it´s not dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Made some mistakes... Here it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 and a close-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 and another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Damn, the time that must have taken to prepare by hand! In the early days of my artillery career, we would do target lists and overlays ("measle sheets") by hand, but those were cocktail napkin drawings compared to this... Thankfully, not long after we started using computers and digital communications. Thanks for sharing this bit of history. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 I have a Feuerwalze map for te Kaiserschlacht somewhere... Hi Chris. It would be nice, if you would find it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Damn, the time that must have taken to prepare by hand! In the early days of my artillery career, we would do target lists and overlays ("measle sheets") by hand, but those were cocktail napkin drawings compared to this... Thankfully, not long after we started using computers and digital communications. Thanks for sharing this bit of history. Yes, it would not be my work..... The more I read abozt that period, the more I am sure, that the map is the plan of the attack mof the 15th july. I compared the artillery units on the map with several books. It fits! The 3rd army didn´t fight against Reims, they shot southbound (direction Chalons) to save the 1st armies Marne-passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 You should write an article using these plans... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 You should write an article using these plans... There are a few abreviations and terms, that I don´t understand for 100%..... It would be very difficult, adding the translation in english... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 There are a few abreviations and terms, that I don´t understand for 100%..... It would be very difficult, adding the translation in english... Well, if it isn't a thousand pages, könnte ich vielleicht mit der Übersetzung helfen. And as an artilleryman, I might be able to decipher some of the abbreviations. Just a thought... :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Du sprichst deutsch??? Well, it ain´t too much pages. But sometimes there are only numbers written, and I don´t know the senses. You cán give me your email adress, so I can send you some copies in better quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Sicher, Ich kann deutsch. My email can be linked from my profile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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