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    ORDER OF THE RED BANNER OF LABOUR MPR


    Vatjan

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    Order of Labor Red Banner

    Type 1 (Screwback)

    Low = 106 High = 3712

    Type 2 (Pinback)

    Low = 4029 High = 6772

    621: 17/11/1951 Suuigiyn Gombo

    1039: 16/02/1956 Dolgor, Nasan

    5826: 00/00/1987 Batsukhin, Bayasaikhan

    6238: 15/04/1993 Bamyn Dojuu

    Sources:

    Eric and Jan

    http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=0

    http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=13

    Edited by Ed_Haynes
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    • 2 months later...

    New high for Type 1: 3744

    Soon I hope to also have the booklet which the seller forgot to send. Will hopefully provide useful date info.

    I really like this award. Nice and heavy.

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    I've got several updates. Serial numbers etc. but I thought this was as good a place as any to start.

    New high ORBL type 2 #7020.

    I'll post both the front and the back 'cause I can never get enough of these.

    Front.

    Going by the award date of #6238: 15/04/1993 Bamyn Dojuu, I'm guesssing that this one would be from the very late '90's/early 2000 or could it be unissued???

    It's in near perfect shape so who knows...

    They did switch to the Brass ones so maybe this was issued.... the plot thickens

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    Nice late silver pinback. Issued? Unissued? Surplus stocks from the state bank? Hard to say until some records open up.

    As an update:

    Type 1 (screwback) - Low 83/High 3744

    Type 2 (silver pinback) - Low 4029/High 7020

    Type 3.1 (bronze pinback numbered) - Low 9050/High 9060

    Type 3.2 (bronze pinback unnumbered - unawarded "escapee"?)

    The current (ugly) bronze pinback is quite uncommon (close to "rare"?), although they are out there. They are clearly being awarded. When I was in UB, I saw television news coverage of interviews with recent recipients after a bestowal ceremony (all in Mongolian, so working from images only here); all recipients were clearly wearing the bronze varieties.

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    Playing with my new scale today. Some interesting and weighty results on the few RBLs on "home leave". All Type 1 (screwback).

    83 - 64.80 grams

    198 - 61.90 grams

    484 - 62.55 grams

    1423 - 60.05 grams

    All weighed without screw nuts of course.

    Something to think about??

    Tells us something about (1) variability in manufacture, (2) decline in standards over time, and (3) the dangers of expecting too much standardization?

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    Just to update the typology and serial number ranges observed (in case anyone is interested?):

    A 27/M 10.1 -- Type 1 (Screwback, ~ 4000 awarded) -- Low = 83/High = 3913; 1945-70

    A 28.1/M 10.2 -- Type 2.1 (Pinback, silver) -- Low = 4029/High = 7020; 1970-2004

    A 28.2 -- Type 2.2 (pinback bronze) -- Low = 9050/High = 9060; 2004?

    Type 2.3 (pinback bronze, not numbered, unawarded escapee?)

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    Excerpted from Bob's really useful master list of serial numbers and dates of award (see http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=9917 and THANKS, BOB! ), here are known data points for the Red Banner of Labor Valor (A27/A28):

    621 17/11/1951

    1,039 16/02/1956

    1,423 24/12/1959

    2,329 22/10/1960

    2,845 01/02/1960

    3,744 24/11/1973

    3,809 28/04/1980

    4,452 28/01/1975

    4,835 22/12/1978

    5,050 09/07/1981

    5,826 00/00/1987

    6,238 15/04/1993

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    I guess I really am just an old-fashioned person at heart. I much prefer the 2 earlier designs. I can certainly understand the changes. The cost and labor involved in producing the early designs of each of the orders must have simply become prohibitive at some point.

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