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Ok, here is No Three ...

One of the most well made MVKs come from Gebrüder Hemmerle in München , strangely the box looks rather simple

Notice the difference in size compared to the other two, and the plain lock plate , but whats inside is Mmmmm

Christer

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No IV is Jacob Leser , I think that is one of the most common maker,

Here we find the artistic lock plate again.

Christer

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And the last one , Weiss & Co .

I got this one last week and that was the last of the makers, Now I´m going for the MVK III x mdKr boxes ;)

Hope you enjoyed them.

Christer

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Ok, here is No Three ...

One of the most well made MVKs come from Gebrüder Hemmerle in München , strangely the box looks rather simple

Notice the difference in size compared to the other two, and the plain lock plate , but whats inside is Mmmmm

Christer

Hello Christer,

the big Hemmerle-box is verry intersting. I've never seen such a big box from Hemmerle.

The type of closure I know so do not even.

Can you even show a better picture of the manufacturers stamp on the inside.

The blue boxes were replaced from the red paper-boxes at the end of war.

The red boxes were much cheaper to produce.

Nice cross.

I would date the Hemmerle Cross in 1916.

Regards Andreas

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Greetings to All

Here are the marked MVKs and MVOs I have.

MVK 3.Kl mX mm GH Gebrüder Hemmerle

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MVK 3.Kl mKuX mm GH Gebrüder Hemmerle on Swords

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The corresponding Etuis to the above MVKs.

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BVO 3.Kl mX Ring mm 900, Swords unmarked, mm JL 950 Jacob Leser

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MVO 4.Kl mX Swords mm GH900, mm GH950 Gebrüder Hemmerle

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MVO 4.Kl mKuX Ring mm 900, Swords mm GH900, mm GH950 6 o'clock arm Gebrüder Hemmerle.

Question: With some of these MVOs being marked in the 6 oclock position is this an earlier or later production?

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Wonderful Crosses , Alan ! :jumping::jumping:

Here is my Hemmerle box MVK III x together with a MVK III x MdKr the boxes are very similar in size.

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BVO 3.Kl mX Ring mm 900, Swords unmarked, mm JL 950 Jacob Leser

Hello,

nice Leser MVO. I think it is a fourth class. Can you show me a detailpicture from the fixing of the flames. Are they fix with the crossarm?

Regards Andreas

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Hello,

nice Leser MVO. I think it is a fourth class. Can you show me a detailpicture from the fixing of the flames. Are they fix with the crossarm?

Regards Andreas

Here you go Andreas,

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Here you go Andreas,

Hello Alan,

this is a fourth class. The marking 980 is for silver. The flames should have no fixing with the crossarm.

This type of MVO is an early type with golden frame and medaillon, but the third class is marked with 570 ( for gold).

The golden color can also be patina.

Regards Andreas

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Hello Alan,

this is a fourth class. The marking 980 is for silver. The flames should have no fixing with the crossarm.

This type of MVO is an early type with golden frame and medaillon, but the third class is marked with 570 ( for gold).

The golden color can also be patina.

Regards Andreas

Hey Andreas,

So a third class would be made of actual gold not in silver gilt?

And why would there be a seperation from the frame in a third class but not in a fourth class?

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Hello Alan,

the fourth class was shaped of one piece of silver.

The third class and higher was made of gold.

The flames of the third class and higher were made hollow. So the cross is even lighter than the fourth class.

The flames used separately. From 1917 on, only silver plated crosses had been manufactured, the flames were also hollow.

Look a picture of the fixing of the flames.

Regards Andreas

Sorry, but I have to delete this picture, because I haven't ask the owner.

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Thanks for the help Andreas, very interesting.

The GH MVO4X (pictured earlier) weighs 27.99g

This JL weighs 22.60g

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Thanks for the help Andreas, very interesting.

The GH MVO4X (pictured earlier) weighs 27.99g

This JL weighs 22.60g

Hello Alan,

here the weights of my MVO's 4th class/ swords with golden medaillon.

JL ( the same typ 1) 24,38 g

Hemmerle 27,70 g

Weiss 30,00 g

Sorry but I have no third class and higher and also no weights of these class.

Regards Andreas

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Shouldn't this thread be called...

"What do you know about Bavarian MVO's"

OK, let's change,

here the top highlight of my collection.

It is a Hemmerle

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