Chris Boonzaier Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hi, as extra info, he was here out the are, his location Aschaffenburg/Alzenau.... he also recieved the EK2 and BMVK 3rd class with swords during the war, then the beamten Ribbon one after the war.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eagle Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I get this MVO this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 here's a nice piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 how about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padro Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Doesn't look good, I would say a doctored Deschler 3rd class. I like the enamelled pre 1905 MVK though looks in great condition. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 here's one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerjey Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Major Wilhelm Schwandner He got the KO4X and MVO4X in DSWA. Luipold-Medaille - 1905 KO4X - 17.8.1905 MVO4X - 07.12.1905 MVO4X Kr - 28.9.1915 Afrika DM - ? DK 2. Klasse - 3.1.1916 EK2 - 12.6.1915 EK1 - ? Er. Hochzeit - ab 1921 VWA - ? FEK - 1934 Fähnrich - 8.2.1899 Leutnant - 7.3.1900 Oerleutnant - 18.10.1909 Hauptmann - 26.10.1914 Major - 15.10.1919 Edited August 22, 2016 by Homerjey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerjey Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) please delete ID 375 and 376 ( wrong theme) Edited August 22, 2016 by Homerjey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerjey Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 22 hours ago, Homerjey said: please delete ID 382 and 383 ( wrong theme) 23 hours ago, Homerjey said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelneck Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I have a simple question. In regards to class 3 MVK's, I have noticed that some of them have a reddish copper-like finish that resembles the finish on a brand new USA penny. However, I've seen others that have a gold-like finish with little or no red. In regards to the 2 MVK's that are pictured, which has the better (more desirable) finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas7507 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Who could have made this cross? PS:What is the most desirable maker of the MVK's and MVO'S`? Regards, Nicolas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Hello, thats a Deschler MVK, not rare. The early variants o MVK`s from Weiss, Leser and Hemmerle are desirable. Also the onepiece MVK from Weiss and the zinc crown/swords variant. For example onepiece MVK Edited February 3, 2017 by spolei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 spolei the first time i have heard of a one piece cross if you don't mind sharing your knowledge. what years were they made? only by Weiss or did others try this variation? Are these award pieces or a private purchase For the lower rank soldiers i think these are nice awards. regards, chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas7507 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Thank you Spolei Regards, Nicolas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 21 hours ago, chuck said: spolei the first time i have heard of a one piece cross if you don't mind sharing your knowledge. what years were they made? only by Weiss or did others try this variation? Are these award pieces or a private purchase For the lower rank soldiers i think these are nice awards. regards, chuck Hello Chuck, the onepiece cross were made in the 1918s. The manufacturers had to produce cheaper decorations,so they made one-piece crosses with seperate swords. Weiss made only a few of copper ( non ferrous metal) with copper swords third class with swords and crown/swords. Deschler startet with copper crosses and change to zink crosses with iron swords. The third Class with crown and swords is rare. In my collection ther is a coppered zinc-cross with swords. Here some examples Deschler zinc coppered, zinc crown swords. Deschler coppered ( look at the backside agraffe) and Deschler zinc. Weiss onepiece swords and crown swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 very nice. I have the Deschler zinc with swords and have been looking for the crowned version, and have not seen one for sale recently. very interesting to see that Deschler was not the only manufacturing company that changed the production at the end of the war. thank you, chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 On the End of war there were four manufacturer, Leser, Hemmerle, Deschler and Weiß. Lauer produces till 1916. I think that's the reason why Lauer has only blue boxes. In 1916 something changes for the bavarian decorations, the golden parts would be silver guilt, the ribbons become smaller and the boxes change to a simply red box. It would be interesting to know the productions of all manufacturers and all classes in the seperate years of war. Regards Spolei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Neal O'Conner book VOL II states the Prussian official changed to silver gilt by supreme Cabinet Order of Wilhelm II on November 16, 1916. i would reasonably assume that the other states also had trouble supplying gold for all the decoration and awards and followed suit after the kaisers decree. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelneck Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I was wondering if someone could tell me the maker and the approximate date of issue for my latest addition to the family. GH 950 on the back of the Agraffe GH 900 on the back of the sword. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Newman Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) The GH stands for Gebruder Hemmerle, a well known Bavarian jeweler. It is a 1914-18 period piece since it is on a wartime ribbon. Edited May 8, 2017 by Beau Newman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelneck Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The GH stands for Gebuder Hemmerle, a well known Bavarian jeweler. It is a 1914-18 period piece since it is on a wartime ribbon. Beau, Thank you very much. I was looking at various photos of various variants (tongue twister), and of all the variants that I had looked at, I thought my medal looked most like the Hemmerle variants. However, I didn't know that Hemmerle's first name was Gebuder so I wasn't aware of the connection between the GH and Hemmerle. Thanks for clearing that up for me! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Beau, Thank you very much. I was looking at various photos of various variants (tongue twister), and of all the variants that I had looked at, I thought my medal looked most like the Hemmerle variants. However, I didn't know that Hemmerle's first name was Gebuder so I wasn't aware of the connection between the GH and Hemmerle. Thanks for clearing that up for me! David Hi, Gebruder Hemmerle means "The Hemmerle brothers" Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Hello What do you guys think of this piece? Thanks in advance Kind regards Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 18.7.2017 at 20:22, laurentius said: Hello What do you guys think of this piece? Thanks in advance Kind regards Laurentius OMG Bad fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) I have noticed a few MVKs (1. Kl mX und Kr) for sale lately. I thought I would add them here for future reference. I Look forward to hearing peoples opinions on originality. No.1 No.2 No.3 (Pics taken from eMedals website) Edited October 23, 2017 by Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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