Kev in Deva

GREECE - THE WAR CROSS OF 1916 - 1917.

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Hallo Gents,

picked this up at the weekend at the local Deva Collector's Fair,

on the 24th April 2010,my first Ww1 era Greel medal,

anybody wish to post theirs for comparison?

Width:- 44,5mm

Height: 48,5mm (Sword tip to sword handle.)

Ribbon ring oval:- 21mm

Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

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Rear:-

No apparant makers marks, some slight scratching to the rear left middle

and lower arm (as you look at the picture).

It also came without the original ribbon :(

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

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I believe that Huguenin Fils made the variety with the hinged suspension loop.

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Hello Kevin,

Here is my example.

War Cross, 2nd class, with second award silvered star.

Regards,

Rob

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On the reverse of the medal are the marks of:

L.Süe (Sculptor)

A.A.Rivaud (Designer)

Salonique 1917

Regards,

Rob

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ID: 6   Posted (edited)

Some Greek War Crosses 1916-17, different variations, in silver and white metal.

1. Sue-Rivaud

2. Zisimou 1st variety

3. Huguenin

4. Unknown

5. Zisimou-2nd variety

6. French manufacture

7. Same french manufacture-different suspension

Edited by makedon

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ID: 7   Posted (edited)

Reverse of the above. Check my photos in "Greek military medals" and "WWI medal bars" for War Crosses as parts of medal bars.

The last two are often found with the marks "METAL" and "MADE IN FRANCE".

They are probably of later manufacture. Does anybody know when the term "MADE IN..." started being used?

Note the three different types of suspension:

1) Oval-loop (1,2,3,5)

2) T-like (4)

3) Horizontal (6,7)

Edited by makedon

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Reverse of the above. Check my photos in "Greek military medals" and "WWI medal bars" for War Crosses as parts of medal bars.

The last two are often found with the marks "METAL" and "MADE IN FRANCE".

They are probably of later manufacture. Does anybody know when the term "MADE IN..." started being used?

Hello Makedon,

The markings of 'MADE IN FRANCE' are indeed the work of various French manufacturers, including Arthus Bertrand and M. Delande. These markings are regularly seen on victory medals from the period as well. The US Tariff Law of 1931 required imported merchandise to be labelled 'Made in ...', while the previous US 1891 law required labeling only with the country name of origin.

So it would appear that these War Cross' were produced in the same 1920s-1930s period and marked accordingly.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Rob

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Beautiful collection!cheers.gif I really like the look of this medal!

So, here we see more examples of the larger silver stars on the suspension ribbon, contrary to the reference that Kevin showed earlier. I take it there were exceptions or variances then?

Tim

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Beautiful collection!cheers.gif I really like the look of this medal!

So, here we see more examples of the larger silver stars on the suspension ribbon, contrary to the reference that Kevin showed earlier. I take it there were exceptions or variances then?

Tim

In my opinion Tim,

they are Veteran added, "Big is better Bling-Bling" :P

Unofficial size stars and possibly officially tolerated.

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

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Hi Kevin!

Yes, probably the case as we see it in the Belgian area on Leopold II's from time to time as well, plus the French seem to have added other unofficial pins to commemorative medals, CdG, and other items.

Just learning here, as I want a couple nice representative pieces for my collection and want them 100%.

At least we're talking, showing new stuff and learning!cheers.gif

Best,

Tim

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