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Just saw on a German site an 1870 EKII with non-combatant ribbon, was that ever the case? I have a 1914 EKII with that ribbon, was it common or uncommon or unlikely that the same thing happened in 1870? Or has he just got the wrong ribbon on?

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Hi Troy,

Here's an example of one for you. Sorry but I simply could not find a picture that I could copy and post here.

http://collections.t...d+herewith&ack=

This will give you more information on him:

http://books.google....Nicholas+Manley,+CB,+VC&source=bl&ots=hH-4DZRAlA&sig=xOk2tq83_yrmPJ0t8x-1qEkqLSk&hl=en&ei=lpjdS8LGH4bYNtjmgbwH&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBIQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=Surgeon-General%20William%20George%20Nicholas%20Manley%2C%20CB%2C%20VC&f=false

Note that on both pictures it shows his 1870 EK 2nd with the non-combattant ribbon.

Hoping one of the other members will have his picture and can post it here showing same.

So they were indeed definitely worn as non-combattant awards with said ribbon.

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Edited by Hauptman

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Also the first issue of the iron cross 1813 included the two different ribbons, black with white stripes for combattants, white with black stripes for non-combattants.

These two sorts of ribbon became after 1813 the classic prussian "war-ribbon" for all house-orders, awarded for military merit.

1870/71 4.084 2nd classes where awarded with the white/black ribbon, 13 of them received also the first class for non-combattant merit.

For 1813/1815 342 2nd classes with the white/black ribbon were awarded.

Regards

NavalMark

Edited by NavalMark

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Here's a single mount, seemingly for civilian wear.

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Thank you all gentlemen, I have learnt more in the last 24 hours about spotting or attempting to spot fake 1870 EKIIs than I thought I would! I thought it best to ask about the ribbon, as I have a new found alertness! The photo of the one for sale doesn't show the crown clearly, I've asked him for better photos. If I get them I'll post them here. Thanks again!

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Hi, I have some photos of the 1870 EKII but they are all over 100kb, how can I post them for some advice please?

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