Freiwillige Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I'd like to post here several photos of WW1 tanks from my collection. 1. British Mk-IV "male" tank that changed hands at least twice. Is it possible to know anything about exactly this tank as far as her nickname ("Heinz") and number ("57") are clearly visible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Close-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) "Heinz" was Tank 207 of Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen Abteilung 14, commanded by Leutnant Heinrich Köhler. On June 1, 1918, it was hit and disabled by French shells when inside German lines, near Fort de la Pompelle. The crew continued the firefight with the 57mm gun and machine gun on the side that faced the French lines, while important equipment was unloaded on the other side. The tank was then hit by two more shells and caught fire, forcing the Germans to abandon it. From The German A7V Tank: and the Captured British Mark IV Tanks of World War I, by Maxwell Hundleby and Rainer Strashein (Hayes Publishing, 1990). Edited November 5, 2010 by Thomas W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Thanks a lot for such a fast reply! I have a favour to ask you - what that number (57) stands for then? You said that "Heinz" number was 207 but we don't see it, only 57... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 2. Mk I "male" British tank with dismantled guns hit by the Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 3. French tank "Schneider CA1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Thanks a lot for such a fast reply! I have a favour to ask you - what that number (57) stands for then? You said that "Heinz" number was 207 but we don't see it, only 57... It's an American joke. That number was written in chalk by an American soldier. It refers to a famous steak sauce produced by the F & J Heinz company, which was also famous for tomato ketchup and the advertising slogan "57 varieties." The Heinz company began using that slogan in 1896; the steak sauce called "Heinz 57" became incredibly popular in America in 1913. Every American soldier would immediately think of Heinz 57 steak sauce when he saw the name "Heinz." Therefore, a passing American soldier must have added the number. Edited November 6, 2010 by Thomas W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) I have a photo of "Heinz" and its crew before it was destroyed. I don't want to post the whole photo, because I'm using it in my upcoming book German Assault Troops of World War I: Organization, Tactics, Weapons, Equipment, Orders of Battle, and Uniforms, which will be published by Schiffer. It'll have about 400 photos and will cover all the German assault formations, including trench raiders, regimental shock troops, company shock troops, assault battalions, attack divisions, assault artillery, tanks, flamethrower units, mortar units, machine-gun units... EVERYTHING! Here is "Heinz" with the name written in a slightly different style. Edited November 6, 2010 by Thomas W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted November 6, 2010 Author Share Posted November 6, 2010 Many thanks for the clarification, Thomas! :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 4. French tank Renault FT-17. There's a strange dedication on the back (in English) made by mistake I suppose: "An American one-man tank". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 4. French tank Renault FT-17. There's a strange dedication on the back (in English) made by mistake I suppose: "An American one-man tank". Those kinds of mistakes are very common in commercial postcards. One of the most famous is this one, which show French troops operating flamethrowers, but the caption says, "Giving the Germans gas. French officers, American infantry. France." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Nice pictures. Here I have a list of german A7V´s and captured allied tanks. The list of the captured tanks is NOT complete. If anyone can complete it, you´re welcome! Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 1 (8.1.18 - Hptm. Greiff) 501, Gretchen (später Abt.3, dann wieder Abt.1, Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 502/503 (später Abt.3, im Okt. 1918 aufgegeben und verschrottet) 505, Baden I (später Abt.3, Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 506, Mephisto (später Abt.3, austr. Beute, heute Queensland) 507, Cyklop (später Abt.3, Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 526 (ausgeschlachtet) 527, Lotti, bei Reims verloren, 1922 verschrottet) 541 (Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 560, Alter Fritz (11.10.18 gesprengt) 562, Herkules (später Abt.2, engl. Beute, verschrottet) Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 2 (8.1.18 - Hptm. Steinhardt) 504/544, Schnuck (engl. Beute, 1919 verschrottet) 525, Siegfried (Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 528, Hagen (engl. Beute, 1919 verschrottet) 529, Nixe II (amerik. Beute, 1942 verschrottet) 542, Elfriede (franz. Beute, 1919 verschrottet) 543, Hagen, Adalbert, König Wilhelm (später Abt.3, Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 561, Nixe (ausgeschlachtet) 563, Wodan (Nov.18 bei der Truppe) Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 3 (26.2.18 - Hptm. Uihlein) 540, Heiland (später Abt.1, Nov.18 bei der Truppe) 564 (Nov.18 bei der Truppe) Abteilung 4 (Reserve) Beuteabt.11 (8.3.18 - Hptm. Koch) Mk IV (Käthe) Mk IV (Lissy) 105 - kann auch bei 12 gewesen sein Mk IV (Hedda) Mk IV (Sonja) Beuteabt.12 (13.3.18 - Hptm. v. Frankenberg) Mk IV (Peter) Mk IV (Paul) - Ex-britisch H25 Harlequin MK IV (Hanni) 153 Mk IV (Ännchen) 107 Beuteabt.13 (16.4.18 - Oltn. Wilhelm) Mk IV (Bob) 210 Mk IV (Max) 201 Mk IV (Kathi) 104 Mk IV (Marianne) 112 Mk IV (Schnucki, später umbenant in Kerlchen) 103 Ex-britisch Ace of Spades Mk IV (Moritz) 206 Mk IV (Bertha) 114 Mk IV (Wolf) 209 Beuteabt.14 (7.5.18 - Hptm. Negerborn) Mk IV (Liesel) Mk IV (Trude) Mk IV (Lotte) 110 Ex-britisch F30 Flaming fire Mk IV (Heinz) 207 Mk IV (Fritz) Mk IV (Dora) 101 Beuteabt.15 (26.8.18 ) Beuteabt.16 (Oktober 18 ) Beutepanzer Mk IV mit engl. Bezeichnung C14 (Culloden II) F13 (Falcon II) F41 (Fray Bentos) __________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 4. French tank Renault FT-17. There's a strange dedication on the back (in English) made by mistake I suppose: "An American one-man tank". While the tank is of French design and manufacture it is shown here in use with Americans, possibly crewed by Americans,I believe they also had the same tank model in the US, so altogether not a wrongly worded comment. Kevin in Deva. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Here is what I have. They come from my great grandfather's bring backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 NExt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Closeup of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 While the tank is of French design and manufacture it is shown here in use with Americans, possibly crewed by Americans,I believe they also had the same tank model in the US, so altogether not a wrongly worded comment. Kevin in Deva. Kevin, thanks for your comment! Unfortunately I don't have any information regarding similar tank model produced by Americans. The ones that I know look different. Maybe someone could help with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Nice pictures. Here I have a list of german A7V´s and captured allied tanks. The list of the captured tanks is NOT complete. If anyone can complete it, you´re welcome! Thank you, Andreas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) Kevin, thanks for your comment! Unfortunately I don't have any information regarding similar tank model produced by Americans. The ones that I know look different. Maybe someone could help with that? The M1917 Six-ton Tank was the American version of the FT-17. Only 64 Six-ton Tanks had been built by the Armistice, and it didn't see action. It differed from the Renault in that the exhaust pipe was on the opposite side. (This photo is actually an FT-17.) http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m1917.html Edited December 11, 2010 by Thomas W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Thanks for the info, Thomas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Nice pictures. Here I have a list of german A7V´s and captured allied tanks. The list of the captured tanks is NOT complete. If anyone can complete it, you´re welcome! Here are two photos from the latest addition to my collection. Dedication on the back: "German artillery and tanks at Place de Concorde, Paris, France. taken July 8th, 1919". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiwillige Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Second photo. Close-up of captured German A7V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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