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Bill:  Certainly is a one-of-a-kind Victory Medal with what appears to be a British War Medal suspension and a length of American Victory Medal ribbon!!

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Hello friends!

Collection replenishment: 47452 STVDR BAOAL DIN. MESO. RYS.

STVDR - who is this?

Oliver

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Великобритания Тип 2 официальный Месопотамия гурт 2.jpg

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Oliver,

Never seen this abbreviation before but my guess would be Stevedore, that  is a Dock Worker or Labourer and may fit with the fact that your Man was employed on the Mesopotamia Railways.

Will see what else I can turn up.

Regards Simon

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Thanks, Simon!

 

And who is this?

W. SERVT SURGU B.M.P.

Ward Servant ?

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What color is the solder that holds together the two ends of the suspension ring together?  It is hard to determine from the photos.

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I do not see the color of the solder!

That's why I'm asking!

There are no other photos!

 

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oliver860:  The photos are not of high enough resolution to determine which type you have. The characteristics that distinguish a Type 1 from a Type II British Victory Medal cannot be determined from the images you post.

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Hello!
Before buying I want to know about # S4-091038 A.Cpl.R.Stockbridge, A.S.C.
Perhaps it?

Oliver

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He does not appear to be listed with the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, so presumably he survived the War.

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If you're looking at Brit WWI campaign medals you might also want to look here for Medal Index Cards  http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1262

Ancestry's search engine is terrible but it's free so I shouldn't complain https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1262/30850_A001491-02262?pid=5440763&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DCmT81%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3DMedalRolls%26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26gsfn%3Drobert%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln%3Dstockbridge%26gsln_x%3D1%26MSAV%3D1%26uidh%3Da9g%26pcat%3D39%26fh%3D0%26h%3D5440763%26recoff%3D9%2010%26ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CmT81&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

He probably received his medals in the early 20s however, most service records were destroyed in WWII and those that survived aren't always in good condition so the exact date he received the VM is unknown.

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As Tony indicates, it is very difficult to determine when the BWM and VM were issued to British other ranks as the medal index cards and medal rolls for other ranks do not usually list the date of issue.  On the other hand the medal index cards and medal rolls for British officers each give the date of issue. If the date of issue shown is prior to 1 January 1921 then the VM is most likely a Type I or Type IR;  if the date of issue is on, or after, 1 January 1921 then the VM is almost always a Type II VM.  I have seen a few VMs to other ranks which include a receipt form or the medal in the paperwork accompanying the issue of the medal which include the date of issue on the form.

I think that I have mentioned this previously, but I have a number of blogs on the Orders and Medals Society of America website http://www.omsa.org/category/blog/british-post-1902/   that give extensive information on the various types of British Victory Medals, the naming on these medals and statistics on the numbers issued.

 

 

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Thank you!

The seller can not make the best photos! I can not determine Type 1 or it is Type 2

 Yours faithfully!

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Hi to all. What is this clasp? Why it was worn, it should not be? It was a fashion?

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The clasp on the Victory Medal is an unofficial clasp that has been added to the ribbon - there were no clasps issued for that medal.

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The clasp on the Victory Medal is an unofficial clasp that has been added to the ribbon - there were no clasps issued for that medal.

Thanks for the answer.

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The only allowed on the Vic British ribbon was the MID emblem.

InterallieeD

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