Jean-Michel Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hello Chris, I do not have citations where degrees of wars cross. By cons, I have only diplomas of medal of victory of several countries. Regards Jean-Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver860 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Hi! In all medals Pautot-Mattei is labeled edge "BRONZE"? Regards Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Hi! In all medals Pautot-Mattei is labeled edge "BRONZE"? Regards Oliver Hello Oliver, All models "Pautot-Mattei" are not stamped "BRONZE Regards Jean-Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver860 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Hello Jean-Michel! No? And Laszlo says "Type 2 Unique obverse and reverse. Has the name of the designer of the obverse," M.Pautot ", in incised letters on the obverse and the name of the designer of the reverse," LOMattei ", in raised letters on the reverse. "BRONZE" is impressed on edge. Regards Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Hello Oliver, In his book Laslo describes a model "Pautot 'Mattéit," but I have already identified more than 10 different models! All inscriptions in setback are not embossed, they are models engraved . Soon I will make a presentation of different models. Regards Jean-Michel Edited March 2, 2013 by Jean-Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver860 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Hello Jean-Michel! All right. I will wait. Regards Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hi Gents, Reading through the thread on French vics on the FIM web site, I found a picture of a Morlon vic that did not have any makers marks on the reverse - no cornucopia or triangle and no BR. I have one that is very similar .... Like the one on the FIM site, the obverse appears to have worn gilding, especially visible on the figure of Victory. The reverse seems to have no obvious marks at the 6 o'lock - there are a couple of slightly brighter spots, but even under magnification ... ... there are no obvious marks, and a high-res scan doesn't show anything better ... So, is this a genuine markless version, or is it like the one in my post #68 on this thread? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hi Gents, Reading through the thread on French vics on the FIM web site, I found a picture of a Morlon vic that did not have any makers marks on the reverse - no cornucopia or triangle and no BR. I have one that is very similar .... Like the one on the FIM site, the obverse appears to have worn gilding, especially visible on the figure of Victory. The reverse seems to have no obvious marks at the 6 o'lock - there are a couple of slightly brighter spots, but even under magnification ... ... there are no obvious marks, and a high-res scan doesn't show anything better ... So, is this a genuine markless version, or is it like the one in my post #68 on this thread? Bill Hello Bill, There are examples of the Morlon model that do not have the cornucopia and BR mark on the reverse. They are not found that often. Given that you have provided a very clear close-up of the reverse it does indeed appear that there are no corresponding marks. The roughness of the bottom part of the edge and reverse planchet does look a bit odd but that may be a result of the image and lighting. It should be remembered that the Morlon model was produced in very significant numbers so it is not surprising that there is such a variety of manufacturers. A nice pickup in good condition. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 photo with the veteran of the Foreign Legion (?) and his medals .. note the vic unofficial model Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 And now, my new purchase ..Unofficial Vic French, Charles Type 1 Best Regards Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hello Lambert, Normally on the edge of the medal there must be a marking. Regards Jean-Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hello Jean.Yes, there is marked very clear. Best Regards Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Hello Jean.Yes, there is marked very clear. fr635171069544508365.jpg fr635171069760204924.jpg Best Regards Lambert Hello Lambert, A very nice piece that you have obtained. The edge markings of Chobillon and BRONZE are very clear. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Hello Lambert, The marking is perfect. Regards Jean-Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidck Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Got the Morlon version with triangle maker's mark (but no "BR") in the mail today. Got a great price on it too! http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-16545-0-77988200-1389203189.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-16545-0-07849300-1389203212.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-16545-0-89399200-1389203226.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi David, A nice example of what seems to be a rare variant. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Hello davidck,You are getting very nice examples. keep it up .... Hello to allHappy NEW YEAR! Lambert Edited January 9, 2014 by lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I belive I have something a little unusual here. I got this on eBay, because I'd never seen a silvered French vic before. Realizing it may have been silvered much later, I figured it wasn't much of a risk for $25. This is the standard Morlon variety, and you can see the silvering has worn away in some places, revealing the bronze beneath. Has anyone else seen something like this or know why/when it may have been silvered? I apologize for the picture quality...you may just have to take my word for it that it has a mainly silver coloration. Edited February 5, 2014 by davidck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Hello David, I belive I have something a little unusual here. I got this on eBay, because I'd never seen a silvered French vic before. Realizing it may have been silvered much later, I figured it wasn't much of a risk for $25. This is the standard Morlon variety, and you can see the silvering has worn away in some places, revealing the bronze beneath. Has anyone else seen something like this or know why/when it may have been silvered? I apologize for the picture quality...you may just have to take my word for it that it has a mainly silver coloration. I have seen silvered-bronze examples of the French vic before. As has been suggested elsewhere on this forum whether or not a medal was silvered, or even gilt finished may have defended on the funds of the person wanting to wear the medal. In addition there is also the French reissue type vic which has both a reddish-bronze finish as well as a shiny-gilt finish. Regards, Rob Edited February 7, 2014 by RobW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidck Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Things are slow here lately, so here's my latest acquisition: a French official with triangle and BR marks on the reverse. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2014/post-16545-0-55638500-1400518060.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2014/post-16545-0-01076800-1400518105.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hello DavidExcellent! very clear example. Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Hi Gents, I've just acquired this modern reissue of the Official vic by Paris Mint, in its box: Obverse Reverse The box is dark blue 'leather texture' with this label on the side: The finish is very bright brassy/gold, and there is a clear Paris Mint cornucopia + BR on the reverse: I have another Reissue which is much lighter bronze colour than the 1920s issue, but it's not shiny like this one. Any comments welcome. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymac Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hey Bill, I guess everyone must be on vacation, but, I think its a nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hi Gents, I've just acquired this modern reissue of the Official vic by Paris Mint, in its box: Obverse Reverse The box is dark blue 'leather texture' with this label on the side: The finish is very bright brassy/gold, and there is a clear Paris Mint cornucopia + BR on the reverse: I have another Reissue which is much lighter bronze colour than the 1920s issue, but it's not shiny like this one. Any comments welcome. Bill Bill, Thanks for posting. I do not see this often with new editions.I particularly do not like this "golden" bronzer, I prefer the color of brown patina.. Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 This is the latest acquisition, arrived today .. was a surprise because it took many months to come. already gave as lost ... Detail of manufacturer brand, also Paris Mint cornucopia + BR Regards Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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