lambert Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hello Bill, Interesting statistics on the ribbons. Yes, the official greek vic would have come on French ribbon. The Romanian official vic has also been seen on a French ribbon. The unofficial types 1, 2, 3, and 3a have been seen on a variety of local Romanian produced ribbons. The colours, tones and widths vary as a result. Regards, Rob Hello All This Vic Romanian, French has the Ribbon, here reported. You are in very good condition. Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hi Gents, I've been looking for some French ribbon to replace incorrect items on vics I've bought. I found a French seller on eBay who has good quality ribbon - the name is contoutos and there are two types:- The first is described as 'superbe tissage ancien' - item 140638754813, and the other as 'tissage récent' - item 130600071521. They come in lengths of 14cm. I bought a length of the second type and it is watered on one side only, but very good quality. The seller has a big eBay store with lots of replacement ribbons. I have no connection with the seller - other than being a satisfied customer! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hi Gents, Further to my last post, I now have an example of the first type - 'superbe tissage ancien' - and here is a comparison of the two types with a piece of original ribbon: On the left the 'superbe tissage ancien' and on the right the 'tissage récent' . The first type seems to be quite a good match for the original, but the second is more like some of the Czech-made ribbons - possibly a use for it there. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hi Bill, The problem with modern replacement ribbons, and justly, weaving too thick. I do not like this kind of texture. It is common to find copies of the Ribbon in vic rare. But I know that there Ribbons best quality, almost like the originals. Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Friends. Sorry for my absence, I am very busy with personal issue. Regards Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Hi Gents, Further to my last post, I now have an example of the first type - 'superbe tissage ancien' - and here is a comparison of the two types with a piece of original ribbon: On the left the 'superbe tissage ancien' and on the right the 'tissage récent' . The first type seems to be quite a good match for the original... Bill Hello Bill, The french produced 'superbe tissage ancien' is indeed of very good quality. It is the same quality as that produced in the late 1920's and early 1930's before the re-issue type medals were produced. There are a range of modern produced reproduction ribbons but all of these don't seem to achieve the watered blending effect of the silk varieties produced in the 1920's and 1930's. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hi Gents, Posted today in the Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals section by Chris Boonzaier is a link to eBay, where someone is selling 1 yard lengths of 'genuine silk victory medal ribbon' http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-YARD-36-INCHES-OF-ORIGINAL-MINT-CONDITION-WW1-SILK-VICTORY-MEDAL-RIBBON-/330871727272?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4d097de4a8 Not cheap, though. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi Gents, Posted today in the Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals section by Chris Boonzaier is a link to eBay, where someone is selling 1 yard lengths of 'genuine silk victory medal ribbon' http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-YARD-36-INCHES-OF-ORIGINAL-MINT-CONDITION-WW1-SILK-VICTORY-MEDAL-RIBBON-/330871727272?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4d097de4a8 Not cheap, though. Bill Hello Bill, As time marches on so does the availability of original era ribbon, including the very finely made 'silk' ribbons. It is becoming much more difficult to obtain such ribbon especially to remount Commonwealth groups. More and more we see the much more current era ribbons produced and they are nowhere near the same quality as the earlier 1920s-1930s ribbons. Most of the newer ribbons are quite unblended and certainly do not look as good as the original. Of course this doesn't include the Czechoslovak produced ribbons which were of a coarser weave and unblended in the first instance. When I am remounting groups, or even singles, I will always attempt to obtain earlier era ribbons despite the rising prices. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Hi Gents, I found a web page comparing different modern versions of ribbons for various medals - mostly US - here http://www.frontiernet.net/~ericbush/US/differ/Differ.html Down at the bottom it shows 6 different versions of the Victory ribbon, from 40mm to 37mm in width http://www.frontiernet.net/~ericbush/US/differ/WW1victory.jpg I've just bought a short piece of modern ribbon from a French seller where the green shade looks more white, although it has nice watering. Bill Edited March 23, 2013 by Bilco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Hello AllGentlemen, I got some time this Belgian medal, aid the victims of the Great War 1914 18, interestingly she was issued with a ribbon similar to MV.' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">">' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">">' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">">' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">"> Lambert ' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px">' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="1000px" height="750px"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I haven't seen that medal before, Lambert - a nice piece. The medal ribbon seems to be the Victory medal colours reversed - blues in the middle instead of reds. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambert Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thank Bill.Really a medal (unofficial) very beautiful and fair meaning.I do not know much about her, but I know that is very scarce. Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisnp Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Hello gentlemen, I know I seldom contribute, but I thought I'd try to revive this thread for a mystery I could use help in solving. I have a four ribbons sewn around a stiffener, first two being obvious - Belgian and French Croix de Guerre. BUT…if the red ribbon next to them were the Legion of Honour, it would not be in the right order of precedence. Lastly, the Victory Medal ribbon does not look like French or Belgian ribbons, but then what? Czech? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hello Chris, There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the ribbon as there were a great variety of French produced vic ribbons. I have seen other French vics with the specific ribbon you have shown on your example. Nothing untoward about the bar either. Another contender for the red ribbon is the Serbian Milosh Obilich medal. Regards, Rob On 15/05/2016 at 10:24, Chrisnp said: Hello gentlemen, I know I seldom contribute, but I thought I'd try to revive this thread for a mystery I could use help in solving. I have a four ribbons sewn around a stiffener, first two being obvious - Belgian and French Croix de Guerre. BUT…if the red ribbon next to them were the Legion of Honour, it would not be in the right order of precedence. Lastly, the Victory Medal ribbon does not look like French or Belgian ribbons, but then what? Czech? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisnp Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Thanks for taking the time to reply Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasser Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 23/03/2013 at 10:03, Bilco said: Hi Gents, I found a web page comparing different modern versions of ribbons for various medals - mostly US - here http://www.frontiernet.net/~ericbush/US/differ/Differ.html Down at the bottom it shows 6 different versions of the Victory ribbon, from 40mm to 37mm in width http://www.frontiernet.net/~ericbush/US/differ/WW1victory.jpg I've just bought a short piece of modern ribbon from a French seller where the green shade looks more white, although it has nice watering. Bill Hi Bill, do you have any updates since this post on the original variations of the WW1 medal ribbon especially the Victory medal ribbon? regards, yasser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hi Yasser, No, nothing new to contribute I fear. I do note the distinctive watering on the Belgian ribbon - I must look into how this is produced ... Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There was a thread on the British Medal Forum back in 2015 about modern ribbon for the British vic, which shows some comparisons between modern and original ribbon, and points up the different quality of modern offerings http://www.britishmedalforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=286&t=105615 You might have to sign up to the BMF, but it costs nothing and they don't pester you! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasser Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bilco said: There was a thread on the British Medal Forum back in 2015 about modern ribbon for the British vic, which shows some comparisons between modern and original ribbon, and points up the different quality of modern offerings http://www.britishmedalforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=286&t=105615 You might have to sign up to the BMF, but it costs nothing and they don't pester you! Bill Thanks Bill. Original stuff is just amazing. It does pop up now and then and somewhat in OK quantities. Roy W was selling some again on BMF few weeks ago but I missed out on that opportunity. It would be nice to continue your work on comparison of ribbons on your site. I think it is very helpful to collectors sourcing original ribbons. Regards, Yasser. Edited September 19, 2017 by Yasser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 An interesting article on the unofficial Victory Medal ribbon on this Australian site https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog/unofficial-victory-medal-ribbon-1919 Has anyone seen the article referred to at the end? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 18 hours ago, Bilco said: An interesting article on the unofficial Victory Medal ribbon on this Australian site https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog/unofficial-victory-medal-ribbon-1919 Has anyone seen the article referred to at the end? Bill Hello Bill, I have a copy of the article in quesiton from the September 1998 Medal News issue. It recounts the same background information about the Interallied Victory Medal conference that is contained in the introdcution to Mr Alex Laslo's book, as it specifically relates to the discussion about how the design of the vic ribbon was chosen. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilco Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thanks Rob Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasser Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks Rob Regards, Yasser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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