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China Warlord period decorations: some trivial observations of their confusing similarity

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ID: 76   Posted (edited)

Well this has appeared again, correctly labelled this time - Biyun Temple decoration.

Was intrigued by this particular specimen when it was unsold at 1000 euros.

Starting price - 4000 euros.

http://coins-la-galerie-numismatique.com/auction-xx/china/bi-yun-temple-award

It appears to be a sash badge. I've not seen any images of a breast star and it's still a mystery why a Temple would be handing out decorations.

Edited by drclaw

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Yep.

Also same provenance "This order has been awarded to a French Air Force officer serving in China"

Guess this officer was real devotee :whistle:

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My suspicion is that it will remain with the consigner.

Paul

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Yes, €4000 is price tag for real fans of Biyun Temple decorations a75afcb77f4ada8b80f6f0e945e1d61d.gif

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I think we haven't had this one yet.

Silver, 42mm

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Identical piece in Morton and Eden 29 November 2012 lot 142, described as uncertain provincial merit decoration.

Paul

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ID: 85   Posted (edited)

Well that Biyun Temple award mentioned in #44 and #48, unsold at 1000 euros, then 4000 euros, CAN NOW BE YOURS FOR 5750 EUROS!

It never ceases to amaze me how some dealers look at recent price trends in Chinese medals and think the sky is now the limit for their wares.

My favourite examples:

* Military Order of the Dragon - $12,500 (3-4 times what they would sell for at auction):

http://www.emedals.com/collectors-gallery/world-nations/asia/china/military-order-of-the-dragon-w01276

* That mysterious Double Dragon discussed in: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/60611-russian-double-dragon/

At least the price has been reduced from the original $15,000 …

It's left me wondering.

Is this like Tiffany's where massively inflated prices generate cachet and an aura of exclusivity that customers flock to buy?

Or do people just point and laugh?

Edited by drclaw

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ID: 86   Posted (edited)

I guess the latter...

I once inquired about a (too) high priced item from the seller in question, asking if he was willing to reduce the price a little.

He said no and then raised the price by 25%...

That was 6-7 years ago... the item is still unsold...

/Mike

Edited by Great Dane

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Now another very interesting award from 1923

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Obviously suspension was borrowed from order of the Striped Tiger

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According to the seller this is Establishment of the Constitution Medal ;)

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Apart from being from 1923 do we know what it is for?

Paul

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ID: 92   Posted (edited)

See my previous post ;)

You are pretty quick :rock on:

Edited by JapanX

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Thanks we overlapped each other.

Paul

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Now another distant relative of Tiger

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This one was described as Chihli-Shantung Joint Army, First Division Staff Medal

Circa 1926

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Nice item, looks like some of the Chinese medicine poachers got to the Tiger before he appeared on the medal.

Paul

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nice peaces i have few of those :)

 

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