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(And what a delightful name!)

Yes, I thought it would be some Queens solid gold...um....um... Nevermind.

Dan Murphy

Edited by Daniel Murphy

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Interesting Ed....... the ribbon looks exactly like Bulgarian Bravery Cross ribbon right down to the metallic threads at the edge stripes!

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Interesting Ed....... the ribbon looks exactly like Bulgarian Bravery Cross ribbon right down to the metallic threads at the edge stripes!

Yuri's is third class, the first class ribbon was yellow with the same stripes and the second class red with the same stripes. At least re-ribboning a third class badge -- if anyone had one -- might be possible?

The renewed ORP uses different ribbons.

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Igor just posted one of these with extraordinary photographs (and value)

:speechless1:

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1- May I suggest an alternative nomenclature?

The Order of the Vajra

2- All Yuri's sites seem to be down :speechless1: OH NOOOOOO!

3- Eye candy, 3rd class, 4th grade:

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Very nice, Ed! :love:

What are they made of, brass? And the stones, what are they, any idea?

Dolf

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Very nice, Ed! :love:

What are they made of, brass? And the stones, what are they, any idea?

Dolf

1- Material - I assume this is some low-end gold or silver gilt. I have not taken it to a local jeweler to test; not so sure I'd trust them. I assume it was made in whatever Bjork (Battushig says Bock ? but were they still in business that late??) of St. Petersburg and other late-Tsarist Russian jewelers used in making their stuff. While some (a very few, post-1917 ones?) were made in Mongolia, this seems to me to be a pre-revolutionary Russian-made piece. Remember, the thing was only awarded from 1913 until the collapse of feudalism in 1924.

2- Stones - Again, I am a historian not a gem specialist (to paraphrase Dr. McCoy). Looks like a real lapis lazuli in the centre (which it should be for this grade) and fake pearls around the edge. See close-up scan below.

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Just gotta love some the names for Mongolian awards. :D

Yes, "The Order of the Vajra". In English that is. The Mongol name is as yet elusive.

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1- Material - I assume this is some low-end gold or silver gilt. I have not taken it to a local jeweler to test; not so sure I'd trust them. I assume it was made in whatever Bjork (Battushig says Bock ? but were they still in business that late??) of St. Petersburg and other late-Tsarist Russian jewelers used in making their stuff. While some (a very few, post-1917 ones?) were made in Mongolia, this seems to me to be a pre-revolutionary Russian-made piece. Remember, the thing was only awarded from 1913 until the collapse of feudalism in 1924.

2- Stones - Again, I am a historian not a gem specialist (to paraphrase Dr. McCoy). Looks like a real lapis lazuli in the centre (which it should be for this grade) and fake pearls around the edge. See close-up scan below.

Thanks a lot for the clarification Ed.

Whatever it is made of, a very nice A 13 (3rd Class, 4th Grade, right?). A beautiful piece indeed!

Dolf

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Yes :love:

Thanks.

Btw, there is another one of these for sale right now on the siter of that well known NJ dealer, ribbon missing, but for $5,500... :(:rolleyes:

Dolf

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Thanks.

Btw, there is another one of these for sale right now on the siter of that well known NJ dealer, ribbon missing, but for $5,500... :(:rolleyes:

Dolf

Dolf,

we don?t have to play this game here on gmic too. You can say, its CollectRussia ;)

Gerd

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Dolf,

we don?t have to play this game here on gmic too. You can say, its CollectRussia ;)

Gerd

Gerd,

Yeah, probably the influence of such practice for a few years... you know what I mean ;)

Dolf

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Gerd,

Yeah, probably the influence of such practice for a few years... you know what I mean ;)

Dolf

Absolutely, Dolf :cheers:

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There are no restrictions on mentioning a dealer site, nor on links to a dealer's site here guys.

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There are no restrictions on mentioning a dealer site, nor on links to a dealer's site here guys.

Thanks for the confirmation, Rick.

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Prices have just come down significantly on these! Within reach for mere mortals now! :beer:

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Igor has posted up a couple and I think Alexei just updated with 2 very nice examples of this beautiful order.

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They all look the same (and unfortunately are not numbered) but nevertheless, they are pretty so here's another one.

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