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On a Canadian Queens Korea Medal what would the prefix SK stand for. this would appear before the serial number. I have been told that S is for an NCO. The next letter was place of enlistment? The Letter K would stand for what location. Many thanks

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The inscription appears on both the Queens Canadian Korea Medal and the U.N. Medal. SK-13816 L.J. Browne. There is also a Canadian Korea volunteer medal that has no rim inscription. thanks for any help on this as Canadian items do not show up much here in Central Illinois

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QSAMIKE   

The inscription appears on both the Queens Canadian Korea Medal and the U.N. Medal. SK-13816 L.J. Browne. There is also a Canadian Korea volunteer medal that has no rim inscription. thanks for any help on this as Canadian items do not show up much here in Central Illinois

Hello Irish.......

Browne's regimental number during World War Two was K-13816, he volunteered to serve in Korea and given his old number with the letter "S" in front.......

The K stands for the Military District, I'm not sure which one is K that he enlisted in during WW2..... I know Calgary where I am was Military District 13 and letter "M".....

Mike

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Thank you Mike, So he was a 2 war veteran. That would explain the WW2 rack of medals that were with this group in the shop where these were found.. None of the WW2 medals were named so I left them behind. I will continue to try and determine what the K represents. Any way to research this veteran's service? Thanks again

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QSAMIKE   

Found it with a little help from some friends.......

Militia District 11 - Prefix K - British Columbia and Yukon Territory

9th Armoured Regiment 1 - 3200

British Columbia Regiment 37001 - 42000

Rocky Mountain Rangers 42001 - 47000

Westminster Regiment 47001 - 52000

Seaforth Highlanders 52001 - 57000

Canadian Scottish Regiment 57001 - 59500

Canadian Scottish Regiment 62001 - 67000

Irish Rifles 67001 - 72000

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Again with a lot of help from my friends...... Thanks Adam......

For other forum members who might be looking for Regimental Numbers by Military Districts:

http://www.canadaatwar.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=3172

Following is a list of the number blocks assigned the various units and services of the Canadian Army and a List of Militia Districts and Areas. Please note that this is a heavily edited list, only showing some of the major armoured units and infantry regiments. A complete list, and full explanation of the Regimental Numbers, is available in Clive Law's Regimental Numbers of the Canadian Army, 1936-1960.

Militia District 1 - Prefix A - Toronto area

1st Hussars (6th Armoured Regiment) 1 - 1999

Royal Canadian Regiment 3000 - 3999

Perth Regiment 11000 - 16999

Essex Scottish Regiment 21100 - 26999

Highland Light Infantry of Canada (Galt) 37175 - 37999

Highland Light Infantry of Canada (Kitchener) 38000 - 41999

Elgin Regiment 42000 - 46999

Kent Regiment 49500 - 54499

Militia District 2 - Prefix B - Central Ontario

Royal Canadian Dragoons 1 - 100

Scots Fusiliers 24901 - 24999

Royal Hamilton Light Infantry 36500 - 38240

Lincoln & Welland Regiment 40500 - 41576

2nd/10th Dragoons 41601 - 42999

Dufferin & Haldemand Rifles 43000 - 43481

Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders 45500 - 46654

Lorne Scots (Defence Platoon) 46801 - 47150

Lorne Scots (Defence Platoon) 51600 - 52202

Grey & Simcoe Foresters 49250 - 49550

Grey & Simcoe Foresters 50000 - 50161

Grey & Simcoe Foresters 50750 - 50920

Algonquin Regiment 54500 - 55649

Sault Ste Marie and Sudbury Regiment 59000 - 60499

Queen's Own Rifles 63500 - 64441

Royal Regiment of Canada 66500 - 68013

3rd Armoured Regiment 69500 - 70160

Queens York Rangers 70161 - 71000

Prince of Wales Rangers 71001 71099

48th Highlanders of Canada 72500 - 74849

Toronto Scottish Regiment 75500 - 77058

Irish Regiment of Canada 78500 - 79539

Militia District 3 - Prefix C - Eastern Ontario and South-Western Quebec

Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment 4001 - 9000

Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa 20501 - 25500

Midland Regiment 40501 - 40750

Stormont, Dundas & Glengarry Highlanders 40751 - 41250

Lanark & Renfrew Scottish Regiment 42301 - 42310

Lanark & Renfrew Scottish Regiment 79000 - 79415

Regiment de Hull (Active Force) 42501 - 42700

Regiment de Hull (Active Force) 43501 - 43618

Stormont, Dundas & Glengarry Highlanders (Active Force) 53000 - 57498

Governor General's Foot Guards (Active Force) 58000 - 62999

1st Bn. Midland Regiment (Active Force) 65000 - 69999

Prince of Wales Rangers 78000 - 78234

Brockville Rifles (Active Force) 80000 - 80999

Militia District 4 - Prefix D - Western Quebec

1st Armored Car Regiment 1500 - 2999

7th Recconnaisance Bn. 3000 - 5999

22nd Armoured Regiment 26000 - 30999

Regiment de St. Hyacinthe 41000 - 45999

27th Armoured Regiment (Sherbrooke Fusiliers) 46000 - 50999

Regiment de Chateauguay 51000 - 55999

Regiment de Maisonneuve 56000 - 60999

Fusiliers de Mont-Royal 61000 - 65999

Regiment de Joliette 66000 - 70999

Victoria Rifles of Canada 71000 - 75999

Royal Montreal Regiment 76000 - 80999

Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada 81000 - 90999

Royal 22nd Regiment 106000 - 106499

Royal 22nd Regiment 124700 - 124899

Canadian Armoured Corps (Reinforcements) 131000 - 131999

Fusiliers de Sherbrooke Regiment 150000 - 154999

Regiment de Maisonneuve 160000 - 162999

Fusiliers de Mont-Royal 163300 - 165999

Militia District 5 - Prefix E - Eastern Quebec and Western Newfoundland

Royal 22e Regiment 4001 - 7500

Regiment de la Chaudiere 9001 - 14000

Royal Rifles of Canada 22801 - 23300

Royal Rifles of Canada 29801 - 34800

Voltigeurs de Quebec 23301 - 23800

Voltigeurs de Quebec 41901 - 46900

Regiment de Levis 23801 - 24300

Regiment de Quebec 24301 - 24800

Regiment de Quebec 63001 - 68000

Fusiliers du St. Laurent 25301 - 25800

Fusiliers du St. Laurent 57601 - 62600

Canadian Armoured Corps 40401 - 40900

Regiment de Montmagny 68001 - 73000

Militia District 6 - Prefix F - Nova Scotia

Halifax Rifles 29550 - 30599

The West Nova Scotia Regiment 39550 - 43699

Pictou Highlanders 44600 - 45799

North Nova Scotia Highlanders 49600 - 50999

The Cape Breton Highlanders 54600 - 55725

Prince Edward Island Highlanders 59600 - 63700

Militia District 7 - Prefix G - New Brunswick

5th Armoured Regiment 1 - 3000

Carleton & York Regiment 17001 - 21500

North Shore Regiment 22001 - 25000

New Brunswick Rangers 27000 - 32000

St. John Fusiliers 32001 - 34000

Militia District 10 - Prefix H - Manitoba and Western Ontario

Lord Strathcona's Horse 1 - 999

Winnipeg Light Infantry 3501 - 3600

Winnipeg Grenadiers 6001 - 7999

Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 16001 - 17999

Fort Garry Horse 26001 - 26999

Royal Winnipeg Rifles 40501 - 42999

Lake Superior Regiment 45501 - 46999

18th Armoured Car Regiment 77001 - 77999

Winnipeg Light Infantry 200000 - 202999

2nd Bn Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada (Reserve Force) 433000 - 436999

Militia District 11 - Prefix K - British Columbia and Yukon Territory

9th Armoured Regiment 1 - 3200

British Columbia Regiment 37001 - 42000

Rocky Mountain Rangers 42001 - 47000

Westminster Regiment 47001 - 52000

Seaforth Highlanders 52001 - 57000

Canadian Scottish Regiment 57001 - 59500

Canadian Scottish Regiment 62001 - 67000

Irish Rifles 67001 - 72000

Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 85201 - 87700

Militia District 12 - Prefix L - Saskatchewan

Saskatoon Light Infantry 1001 - 6000

South Saskatchewan Regiment 12001- 17000

Regina Rifles Regiment 23001 - 24000

Prince Albert & Battleford Volunteers 24001 - 25000

Regina Rifles Regiment 27001 - 32000

16/22 Saskatchewan Horse 36001 - 41000

14th Canadian Hussars 53201 - 55200

Canadian Armoured Corps 58601 - 59600

King's Own Rifles of Canada 84501 - 85500

Prince Albert & Battleford Volunteers 86501 - 91500

Regina Rifles Regiment 93601 - 95600

Militia District 13 - Prefix M - Alberta and the Northwest Territories

Calgary Highlanders 10501 - 12500

Edmonton Fusiliers 12501 - 15500

Edmonton Regiment 15501 - 20500

Edmonton Fusiliers 30801 - 33900

Lord Strathcona's Horse 37401 - 37450

South Alberta Regiment 44751 - 49750

31st (Alberta) Reconnaissance Regiment 51001 - 51500

31st (Alberta) Reconnaissance Regiment 52001 - 52800

Permanent Force Joining the CASF - Prefix P

Royal Canadian Dragoons 1 - 2000

Lord Strathcona's Horse 2001 - 4000

Royal Canadian Regiment 12001 - 20000

Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 20001 - 27000

Royal 22e Regiment 48001 - 52000

Later after the war the letter "S" preceded the letters listed above but the area stayed the same. Example SG was from New Brunswick, SF from Nova Scotia, SN from Newfoundland etc.

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QSAMIKE   

Irish......

I would go back and buy those WW2 medals to complete the set......

Mike

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Irish   

Mike, many thanks. that is very helpful. Your efforts on behalf of this thread are quite commendable. I have just doubled my knowledge of Canadian Medals. Best John

I will go back and get the other medals

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As I start to compare numbers and prefixes their looks to be a difference in unit and location. K which the medal in question has would denote B.C and Yukon Terr, District # 11.

The serial number of 13816 would denote Regiment de la Chaudiere 9001 - 14000. Which is located in Militia District 5 - Prefix E - Eastern Quebec and Western Newfoundland. Assuming this serial number was his WW2 issue. Am I looking at this in to precise of an interpretation?? Could there be differences like this??. I am assuming that the block of serial numbers would be unique and allocated only once to one unit?

However I just noticed that this serial number could have been repeated in the Royal Canadian Regiment 12001 - 20000 which had a prefix of

Permanent Force Joining the CASF - Prefix P. Different prefix letter though

Thanks

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As I start to compare numbers and prefixes their looks to be a difference in unit and location. K which the medal in question has would denote B.C and Yukon Terr, District # 11.

The serial number of 13816 would denote Regiment de la Chaudiere 9001 - 14000. Which is located in Militia District 5 - Prefix E - Eastern Quebec and Western Newfoundland. Assuming this serial number was his WW2 issue. Am I looking at this in to precise of an interpretation?? Could there be differences like this??. I am assuming that the block of serial numbers would be unique and allocated only once to one unit?

However I just noticed that this serial number could have been repeated in the Royal Canadian Regiment 12001 - 20000 which had a prefix of

Permanent Force Joining the CASF - Prefix P. Different prefix letter though

Thanks

Hello John.......

No he was definately from District K, BC and Yukon......

Note I mentioned this......

Please note that this is a heavily edited list, only showing some of the major armoured units and infantry regiments.

In reply to your.....

I am assuming that the block of serial numbers would be unique and allocated only once to one unit?

No that is not the case......

For example:

In Militia District 1 - Prefix A - Toronto area

1st Hussars (6th Armoured Regiment) 1 - 1999 so all numbers between 1 and 1999 would start withe the letter A

In Militia District 7 - Prefix G - New Brunswick

5th Armoured Regiment 1 - 3000 so all numbers between 1 and 3000 would start withe the letter G

So there could be different numbers 1001, and A 1001 and a G 1001 .... etc......

The numbers shown are only for MAJOR units, not including Engineers, Artillery etc......

He would not have been a member of Regiment de la Chaudiere.....

Sorry John using your logic he could have been in 6 different units...... Not including Non-Armoured or Infantry Regiments......

Mike

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Irish   

6 different units, That would have made him one heck of a fighting man. yes that was a poor assumption on my part, thanks for the clarification. As with much research into military records etc there are usuually no quick and or sure answers. Even though I tried. Much appreciated.

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Good evening, Gentlemen.  

Sorry, maybe I'm confused in the definitions, but did not fully understand transcript SC 2205 J.B.R. CARON :

"I have been told that S is for an NCO" (#1) – what means an NCO ?

SC - the letter "S" was set as whole after WW2 or this is an addition for his code during WW2 ?

The letter "C" refers to the M3, but there is no regiment 2205 ( "Militia District 3 - Prefix C - Eastern Ontario and South-Western Quebec.  Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment 4001 - 9000 ...",  but 2205 ?).  Many thanks.

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Good evening, Gentlemen.  

Sorry, maybe I'm confused in the definitions, but did not fully understand transcript SC 2205 J.B.R. CARON :

CARON IS A W.W.2 SOLDIER THAT HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR SERVICE DURING THE KOREAN WAR THAT IS WHY HE HAS THE LETTER "S" BEFORE HIS NUMBER

"I have been told that S is for an NCO" (#1) – what means an NCO ?

THE LETTER "S" DOES NOT MEAN NCO, NON-COMMISSIONED OFFICER.....  VERY VERY OLD WIVES TALE

SC - the letter "S" was set as whole after WW2 or this is an addition for his code during WW2 ?

THIS DESIGNATION WAS NOT USED DURING WW2, ONLY KOREA

The letter "C" refers to the M3, but there is no regiment 2205 ( "Militia District 3 - Prefix C - Eastern Ontario and South-Western Quebec.  Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment 4001 - 9000 ...",  but 2205 ?).  Many thanks.

YES THE LETTER "C" IS FOR MILITIA DISTRICT 3, BUT YOU WILL ALSO NOTE I HAVE STATED THAT THE LIST IS VERY HEAVILY EDITED AND NOT ALL UNITS ARE SHOWN JUST SOME OF THE MAJOR ONES.

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"The letter "C" refers to the M3, but there is no regiment 2205..." 

The same problem with SL 11898 ... 

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C2205  falls within 3rd Field Company, Royal Canadian Engineers, (Active Service)

They were alloted C2001 to C3000 - 2205 is his individual number.

L11898 is in the block for the 21st Field Battery Royal Canadian Artillery, again an Active (i.e. overseas) unit.  When he re-enlisted for Korea, and S was added, but he did not necessarily serve in his wartime unit.  You would need to have his service papers.

I suspect he was a very late enlistment and may not have qualified for more than a War Medal.

Michael

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Hi Michael......

I have a funny feeling that our friend Georg may think that the numbers are unit numbers not numbers given to individual soldiers.....

If he wants all of the lists he will have tp purchase "Clive Law's Regimental Numbers of the Canadian Army, 1936-1960" book......

All I can say is thank God I collect Boer War, a lot less confusing......

Mike

 

 

 

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" Georg may think that the numbers are unit numbers not numbers given to individual soldiers..... "

I understood that this is blocks of the personal numbers whithin each Militia Districts and assigned certain unit/regiment.  I am wrong ?

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That is correct.  The size of the block could vary widely.

As has been said "Regimental Numbers of the Canadian Army" by Clive M. Law is the best source.

Michael

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