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Gents,

  Currently available in the former Soyuz.  Asking price:  $30,500.00. 

  The set includes a duplicate/replacement award booklet which the Russian Federation issued on June 2, 1994.  It's the first time I've seen such a booklet with a Full Cavalier set. 

  He was a sergeant major and recon squad leader in a rifle battalion when recommended for his OGI.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎27‎/‎09‎/‎2018 at 19:54, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Currently available in the former Soyuz.  Asking price:  $30,500.00. 

  The set includes a duplicate/replacement award booklet which the Russian Federation issued on June 2, 1994.  It's the first time I've seen such a booklet with a Full Cavalier set. 

  He was a sergeant major and recon squad leader in a rifle battalion when recommended for his OGI.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎02‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 09:04, USSR said:

That’s absurd imho

Gents,

  This group has just been listed on the well-known auction site with a Buy It Now price of $43,500.00.  While the U.S. stock market took a severe beating this week, documented Full Cavalier sets continue to skyrocket (at least in terms of asking price!).  Check it out.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Wow, that’s rather steep. Even in today’s market and for a full set. 

Here another full cavalier: Awarded to jr sergeant Mikhail Vladimirovich Getmansky (Михаил Владимирович Гетманский)

For street fighting in the very center of Berlin during the Battle of Berlin. 

 

One of the very last OG1s

 

https://sovietorders.com/product/order-of-glory-1st-class/

 

 

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Gents,

  An OGII awarded to a Full Cavalier that is currently available in the former Soyuz.  The minimum opening bid is set at $610.00. 

  He was a corporal with duties as a sapper/reconnaissance scout assigned to an independent sapper battalion in a rifle division when recommended and approved for the second of his two OGII awards in late 1944.  That erroneous second OGII award was amended to an OGI some 40 years later - in 1984.  He was also awarded two ORS and a BM during the war.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Gents,

  Currently available in the former Soyuz.  The seller has yet to identify the asking price. 

  His ORS (included with the group, but not depicted here) OGII, OGIII and BM are all mint-issued official duplicates.

  He was a sergeant with duties as a forward observer squad leader in a mortar regiment when recommended for his OGI for action 12 miles northeast of Berlin in mid-April 1945.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎05‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:43, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Currently available in the former Soyuz.  The seller has yet to identify the asking price. 

  His ORS (included with the group, but not depicted here) OGII, OGIII and BM are all mint-issued official duplicates.

  He was a sergeant with duties as a forward observer squad leader in a mortar regiment when recommended for his OGI for action 12 miles northeast of Berlin in mid-April 1945.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Gents,

  And now, the rest of the story.  The reason why his ORS, OGII, OGIII and BM are mint-issued duplicates, is due to the fact his originals were confiscated at the time of his arrest for a criminal offense in the former Soyuz.  In 1971, after having served his sentence and probation, his Full Cavalier status and awards were restored/returned.  While his OGI was sent to the awards department of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet in Moscow at the time of his original conviction, his other awards were not.  They were likely lost at the location where he was convicted.  Although his OGI was easily recovered from its storage place in Moscow in 1971, his other awards had to be reissued.  

  As a side note, based on the research I conducted for my book, there was a handful of other Full Cavaliers who were similarly stripped of their status and all decorations owing to their criminal convictions.  Like this Full Cavalier they, too, succeeded in their requests to have their status and decorations restored once completing their sentences - a not all too common occurrence.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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3 hours ago, slava1stclass said:

 

  As a side note, based on the research I conducted for my book, there was a handful of other Full Cavaliers who were similarly stripped of their status and all decorations owing to their criminal convictions.  Like this Full Cavalier they, too, succeeded in their requests to have their status and decorations restored once completing their sentences - a not all too common occurrence.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Fascinating stuff. As a youth, I read (with difficulty), Solzhenitsyn’s dreary accounts. It’s gratifying to see that there were, from time to time, happy endings. I had never presumed that the awards could be restored. Thanks for posting. 

Mike. 

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Very interesting history.  I am glad to see that they at least restored his military honors/awards after his time served. 

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Gents,

  This OGII to a Full Cavalier sold yesterday on the well-known auction site for $425.00.  He was serving as a sniper when recommended and approved for it.  As a junior sergeant, he would later serve as an assistant platoon leader in a rifle regiment's dismounted reconnaissance platoon when recommended and approved for his OGI.  He was also awarded an OPWII and ORS. 

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎13‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 08:44, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  This group has just been listed on the well-known auction site with a Buy It Now price of $43,500.00.  While the U.S. stock market took a severe beating this week, documented Full Cavalier sets continue to skyrocket (at least in terms of asking price!).  Check it out.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Gents,

  While a lot of people are "watching" this auction, no one has yet pulled the trigger.  BIN price remains at $43,500.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Gents,

  Just listed on the well-known auction site.  A Category 1 Full Cavalier set issued to a Guards junior sergeant who served as a squad leader in an independent Guards sapper battalion when recommended for his OGI.  The BIN price is set at $16,600.00.  He was also awarded a BM during the war.

Regards,

slava1stclass 

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On ‎13‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 08:44, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  This group has just been listed on the well-known auction site with a Buy It Now price of $43,500.00.  While the U.S. stock market took a severe beating this week, documented Full Cavalier sets continue to skyrocket (at least in terms of asking price!).  Check it out.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Gents,

  The Buy It Now price was lowered to $42,500.00 yesterday.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎03‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 05:24, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Just listed on the well-known auction site.  A Category 1 Full Cavalier set issued to a Guards junior sergeant who served as a squad leader in an independent Guards sapper battalion when recommended for his OGI.  The BIN price is set at $16,600.00.  He was also awarded a BM during the war.

Regards,

slava1stclass 

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Gents,

  A lot of positive buzz about this set on our sister Russian collector forums.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Gents,

  It's that time of year once again.  The New York Sale Auction XLVII is set for January 10, 2019.  Included in this year's Russian Coins, Orders and Medals auction is one Full Cavalier set.  The recipient was one of the very, very few Full Cavaliers to have earned that status while serving as a combat medic.  He was a Guards sergeant major serving in a tank battalion subordinate to a Guards tank brigade when recommended and approved for his OGI.  He was also awarded a BM and CSM during the war.  Note, too, that his OGII is the so-called "border reverse" variant.  Opening bid:  $15,000.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎03‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 05:24, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Just listed on the well-known auction site.  A Category 1 Full Cavalier set issued to a Guards junior sergeant who served as a squad leader in an independent Guards sapper battalion when recommended for his OGI.  The BIN price is set at $16,600.00.  He was also awarded a BM during the war.

Regards,

slava1stclass 

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Gents,

  A very, very interesting development has emerged.  Evidently, the above Full Cavalier set currently offered on the well-known auction site and located in China, is not what it is alleged to be.  Why you may ask?  Turns out the actual set is located in the former Soyuz.  Images of the original set are attached.  Note the China set's attempt to match the numbering style of the original Soyuz set.  At first glance (and without detailed images - especially of the OGI), the China set appeared legit.  The accompanying Full Cavalier booklet (which is legit) only bolstered this false impression.  Buyer beware.

Regards,

slava1stclass. 

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On ‎15‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 06:21, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  A very, very interesting development has emerged.  Evidently, the above Full Cavalier set currently offered on the well-known auction site and located in China, is not what it is alleged to be.  Why you may ask?  Turns out the actual set is located in the former Soyuz.  Buyer beware.

Regards,

slava1stclass.

Gents,

  While many people continue to "watch" this auction on the well-known site, none has yet pulled the trigger. Wisely so.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎23‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 15:51, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Currently available on the well-known auction site for a buy-it-now price of $3,500.00.  The orders booklet and OGII only first surfaced at auction in Ukraine a couple of years back.  Since then, the "OGIII" has now suddenly appeared.  While I'm confident in the OGII's and orders booklet's authenticity, I can't say the same for the OGIII based on the images below.  While the OGIII's "serial number" matches that awarded to the Full Cavalier in question, the likelihood of the original OGIII being found and then reunited with the OGII and orders booklet seems remote at best.  The seller is in Latvia and has a solid eBay reputation.

  In any event, this an interesting offering as the Full Cavalier in question initially served in an airborne unit and later transitioned to duties as an aerial gunner/radio operator in an IL-2 Shturmovik ground attack aircraft.  His OGIII recommendation included credit for shooting down a German aircraft.  His IL-2 pilot would go on to earn the HSU title.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Gents,

  This set has reappeared on the well-know auction site.  It is still located in Latvia.  Opening bid was .99 U.S. cents.  Current bid stands at $57.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎07‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 07:23, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  This set has reappeared on the well-know auction site.  It is still located in Latvia.  Opening bid was .99 U.S. cents.  Current bid stands at $57.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Gents,

  The set sold for $788.79.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎11‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 11:17, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  It's that time of year once again.  The New York Sale Auction XLVII is set for January 10, 2019.  Included in this year's Russian Coins, Orders and Medals auction is one Full Cavalier set.  The recipient was one of the very, very few Full Cavaliers to have earned that status while serving as a combat medic.  He was a Guards sergeant major serving in a tank battalion subordinate to a Guards tank brigade when recommended and approved for his OGI.  He was also awarded a BM and CSM during the war.  Note, too, that his OGII is the so-called "border reverse" variant.  Opening bid:  $15,000.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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Gents,

  This set sold for $14,000.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎23‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 15:51, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Currently available on the well-known auction site for a buy-it-now price of $3,500.00.  The orders booklet and OGII only first surfaced at auction in Ukraine a couple of years back.  Since then, the "OGIII" has now suddenly appeared.  While I'm confident in the OGII's and orders booklet's authenticity, I can't say the same for the OGIII based on the images below.  While the OGIII's "serial number" matches that awarded to the Full Cavalier in question, the likelihood of the original OGIII being found and then reunited with the OGII and orders booklet seems remote at best.  The seller is in Latvia and has a solid eBay reputation.

  In any event, this an interesting offering as the Full Cavalier in question initially served in an airborne unit and later transitioned to duties as an aerial gunner/radio operator in an IL-2 Shturmovik ground attack aircraft.  His OGIII recommendation included credit for shooting down a German aircraft.  His IL-2 pilot would go on to earn the HSU title.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎29‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 16:48, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Although I had my reservations, a knowledgeable fellow collector has confirmed the OGIII's authenticity. 

  One correction.  Osipov's OGIII recommendation credited him with damaging and not shooting down a Me-109 fighter.  After three long bursts from his machine gun, the German fighter began trailing smoke and returned to its lines.

Regards,

slava1stclass

 

On ‎07‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 07:23, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  This set has reappeared on the well-know auction site.  It is still located in Latvia.  Opening bid was .99 U.S. cents.  Current bid stands at $57.00.

Regards,

slava1stclass

 

On ‎15‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 15:23, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  The set sold for $788.79.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Gents,

  There are now clearly some ongoing shenanigans with this set.  Although ostensibly "sold" a few days ago for $788.79, it has now reappeared on the well-known auction site with a BIN price of $1,900.00 and a "Best Offer" option.  I'd steer clear of this seller.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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On ‎03‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 05:24, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Just listed on the well-known auction site.  A Category 1 Full Cavalier set issued to a Guards junior sergeant who served as a squad leader in an independent Guards sapper battalion when recommended for his OGI.  The BIN price is set at $16,600.00.  He was also awarded a BM during the war.

Regards,

slava1stclass 

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On ‎15‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 06:21, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  A very, very interesting development has emerged.  Evidently, the above Full Cavalier set currently offered on the well-known auction site and located in China, is not what it is alleged to be.  Why you may ask?  Turns out the actual set is located in the former Soyuz.  Images of the original set are attached.  Note the China set's attempt to match the numbering style of the original Soyuz set.  At first glance (and without detailed images - especially of the OGI), the China set appeared legit.  The accompanying Full Cavalier booklet (which is legit) only bolstered this false impression.  Buyer beware.

Regards,

slava1stclass. 

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Gents,

  It appears the well-known auction site has now pulled the "China" listing.  It is no longer an active listing and it is not to be found in either the "Sold" or "Completed" categories.  One may assume it was reported as being fraudulent which led to it being delisted.

Regards,

slava1stclass

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