JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Friend sent me this photos that were posted at one russian forum. Interesting case (in both sences of this word ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well, what we have here is an examplarary late Meiji/Taisho specimen I`d say 10s/20s Rosette and case completely correspond to the order. Now. About this case Instead this we have this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Let`s discuss this First of all I don`t think that anybody was messing around with this case. Otherwise we woundn`t have untouched inscription And they are untouched! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 How this box start looking like this one http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2013/post-6141-0-40935700-1388153168.jpg? Or maybe it had chocolate color from the very begining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Together with this pictures I reserved "an expert opinion". According to which this color reminds him brown/chocolate cases for "Cannons". Seriously?! Guess this is how such "Cannon" case looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Not very chocolate if you asked me vs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Another problem with this "hypothesis" is inner case border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) See what I am talking about? Perfectly black. So first reason for this chocolate shade could be simple burning-out of case lid Unfortunately we don`t have pictures of box interior ... Let`s hope owner of this set will see this thread For now let`s assume that it is not a simple consequences of "burning-out". But what else it can be? Any traces of brown cases? Actually yes, but these cases have slightly different color and came from much earlier time period. I am talking about quadro boxes from 1880s. Let`s hit them! Edited December 27, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Sometimes early rising sun orders can be found in perfectly black (at least at first sight they are perfectly black) lacquered cases. But sometimes they have slightly different coloring. Some mix of red and mahogany. Luckily I have both colors Two 8th class cases (one on the right was issued in 1889) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Check out this inscriptions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 As I said mahogany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Although under different light it looks like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Not only case lid, but all outter surface of case has this coloring Sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Butt-ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Inner rim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) It doesn't surprise me, in the late 1970s and 80s there were some Omega Speedmasters and Rolexes (other brands as well ) that started their lives as Black dial models, throughout time and with active use they could develop a tone anywhere from Chocolate (as we see here) to even a light blue color, depending on where the individual lived and what climate the watch was under.If even the proportions for some paint is incorrect or not enough laquer is applied to seal the color this fading can occur There are a couple conditions and names for these dials but most common is the "Tropical Dial"Its an everyday thing in watches don't think that orders and medals cases would be too far off in color, one step of the process is incorrectly applied and it can turn some crazy colors through time.Just an additional note: there are some really interesting variations that can make a dial look either completely brown, or even have tiger stripes appearances or "spider webs" anyway just an insight into my watch passion Edited December 27, 2013 by Rogi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 If even the proportions for some paint is incorrect or not enough laquer is applied to seal the color this fading can occur . Yes! This was exactly what I was thinking! But what intensity of coloring has this case in post #1!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Yes!This was exactly what I was thinking!But what intensity of coloring has this case in post #1!!!!If its ok I'll post some watches for examples, it can go anywhere from light brown to an almost scarlet brown, its really crazy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well, since there could be fans of early rising sun orders here are two pieces inside these cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Check out this craftsmenship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utopis Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well, since there could be fans of early rising sun orders here are two pieces inside these cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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