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Greetings to all.

I would like to find some information on two ABO medals I recently purchased. One to a Korpl J H Muller and another to a Burger F C Swart. Both in relatively good condition, one with a WW1 suspender and the other with the WW2 suspender and block letters. Any information, such as Commandos that they fought in, battles they took part in and any other Boer War and post Boer War info would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Chris

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Evening Mike

I've looked there before and didn't find either of their names. The best I could find was a Korpl J J Muller. I suppose they could have used 'H' as his second name is Johannes but I doubt it. The complete roll would be quite larger than that considering it only has 451 records compared to the close on 14000 ABO medals issued. Any other sources I might look at?

Chris

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Hi,

the big Plus is they are unique name medals.... some ABOs have 3 or 5 or 10 guys with the same initial.

With these (unique names) you can order the guys application form from the archives in Pretoria... it will have (depending on how well he filled out the form) when he joined, which battles he took part in, if he was captured, who his commander was, if he was wounded etc.

There are some reserchers in Pretoria that can get you the info, the prices for the service vary...

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I'll give the Cape Town Archives a call tomorrow and perhaps they can get the Pretoria National Archives to send them some info. Could be an interesting little research project. Thanks again for your help. Narrowed the search down consideribly.

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Good day to all.

Just spoke to the Department of Defence Archives and was put through to the man who deals with ABO medals. He told me to send him an email with all the details of the two gents and hopefully he can send me their form Bs and any other info they might have. He suggested I look a bit further to see if either went on to fight in World War One. Anyway, thank you Chris Boonzaier for helping me out and I shall place what I receive on this post.

Chris

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I can find no trace of a 'Gatsrand Commando' - will be interesting to see if they identify it by that name.

Ladybrand Commando were an OFS Commando. They fought in the following engagements -

Boshof, Magersfontein, Poplar Grove, Brandfort, Sand River, Korrannaberg, Biddulphsberg, Wittebergen,

Brandwater Basin , Commando Nek , Blijdskap. Mervyn

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I can find no trace of a 'Gatsrand Commando' - will be interesting to see if they identify it by that name.

Hi,

The application forms make interesting browsing... quite a number of applicants seem to have made up their own names for battles and units ;-)

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Hi there Mervyn

Here's something that should put the matter to rest..

http://books.google.co.za/books?id=lQKM_11D6I0C&pg=PA656&lpg=PA656&dq=Gatsrand+Commando&source=bl&ots=4YgpwTg5AH&sig=8DZamHbsZrZWH_yxtt2599XW5XM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4YwhU9zUBcje7AaMn4DwCg&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Gatsrand%20Commando&f=false

Oh, and thanks, now I know which way to display the Swart medal.

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Hi all South Africa experts,

I checked the link above and I can't find there Burger H.L.C.Ahrens. Does some of you have any information about that man?

Thanking you in advance,

Timo

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Timo

Hartug Carl Ludwig Ahrens of the Johannesburg Commando is recorded in the DTD/ABO/LVW roll compiled by D R Forsyth.

Regards

Brett

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Timo

Hartug Carl Ludwig Ahrens of the Johannesburg Commando is recorded in the DTD/ABO/LVW roll compiled by D R Forsyth.

Regards

Brett

Thank you very much!

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Timo

Hartug Carl Ludwig Ahrens of the Johannesburg Commando is recorded in the DTD/ABO/LVW roll compiled by D R Forsyth.

Regards

Brett

Would be interesting to see his application document. I am betting he was in more than one commando

best

Chris

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Hello once again.

Just received the copies of the Form B for the two medals. Thank you Chris Boonzaier and a thank you to Gerald and Steve at the Documentation Centre for providing the information. Got both the Forms for Korpl JH Muller and Burger FC Swart but also got one for a Burger J H Muller. Anyway, for your enjoyment..

Regards,
Chris

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