hc8604 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) I am not sure on medal bars in this post.. ..but I was surprised to see this 1st lt. with a "7th" class Sacred Treasure. His hat looks lighter, probably a Imperial guard or something, forgot the name. Edited December 23, 2014 by hc8604 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Here comes another one for your collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 i too would want that last bar. i am intrigued, especially about senior NCOs and their awards now....esp. for navy chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'll have to think on the third bar. It goes with my cased Golden Kites and award documents, and the veteran's memorabilia (a pin, a bowl, a cup) I have with the medal's likeness on them. As for the other two (Frankenstein) bars, I don't see anyone doubting the authenticity of the medals themselves. After combing through domestic dealer's sites, I have come up with a "retail" number for each. I'll probably eBay them "Buy It Now" for the aggregate price of the individual medals... less the price of the common, low value Red Cross medals. Basically, there will be two chances to own seven authentic Japanese medals for the price of six, with hangers thrown in gratis. I'll also add the ribbon bar to one of the listings. Naturally, I'll be sure to alert potential buyers that the bars are suspect in construction per the information gleaned from this thread, and my rationale on pricing. Thanks for the help! I'll get back to you on the third bar soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) while I respect JapanX enormously, please dont tear those bars apart yet. ive seen too many odd things pop up in photos over the years. I have @ 100 Japanese medal portraits and am going to have a look at them tonight. This thread has really focused my attention on Japan, which I have tended to ignore after 1918 historically. Edited December 24, 2014 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 I would NEVER tear apart a bar of any sort, Frankenstein or no. But I would sell it for the aggregate price of its parts. I'm of the school that believes (most) medal bars are worth that only, w/o a premium for the mounting. . . however that is a topic for another thread. But looky what I found (below). It came with the second bar I posted, above. So... someone took the trouble to cobble together a medal bar AND a matching ribbon bar? Hmmm.... the plot thickens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Interesting ribbon bar So... someone took the trouble to cobble together a medal bar AND a matching ribbon bar?Or someone created medal bar after this ribbon bar. Could this bar be an original one? I guess there is a probability ... Edited December 24, 2014 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Hmmmmmmm.........the plot thickens.why the three ribbons at the top? Usually, the ribbons go fewest first. Edited December 24, 2014 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 Lots of weirdness to go around. I think the precedence in the 4-place ribbon bar in post #1 is also strange? Have a look.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I think the precedence in the 4-place ribbon bar in post #1 is also strange? As for the precedence - both bars are against official order of predecedence The ribbon bar for the first one looks totally wrong. Red cross medal before the incident medal?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 why the three ribbons at the top? Usually, the ribbons go fewest first. Nothing wrong with this construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Ah, so the three ribbons on top is normal. Is it for the army and navy or did this matter? I wondered if it hinted at " diplomat" or "administrator" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Is it for the army and navy or did this matter? It doesn't ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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