bigjarofwasps Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Ladies/Gents,I recently bought a Jubilee/Coronation medal group to a Metropolitan Police Bobby. I haven't as yet obtained his service papers, but plan to do so in due course. Is anyone an authority on the 1897 Jubilee Medal? I was wondering just how long an Officer had to have been in service for in order to qualify for it. I believe you had to have been in 5 years to qualify for the 2012 version. Is the same true for the 1897 one or could an Officer have started his training he day before and qualified for it?BJOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 To qualify for the 1897 medal they had to be serving Metropolitan Police (or City of London Police, which was a separate medal) officer on the day of the jubilee and not already in receipt of the 1887 medal in which case they received a bar marked 1897 for the 1887 medal. The 5 year service ruling is a modern concept only introduced For the QEII Golden Jubilee medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 To qualify for the 1897 medal they had to be serving Metropolitan Police (or City of London Police, which was a separate medal) officer on the day of the jubilee and not already in receipt of the 1887 medal in which case they received a bar marked 1897 for the 1887 medal. The 5 year service ruling is a modern concept only introduced For the QEII Golden Jubilee medal. Thanks Tom, that's very interesting!! Am I right then in thinking that you'd have to be an active officer on Division to qualify and not still in training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Interesting question and not one I can answer properly without further research. Initial training would have been very limited in 1897 and be based on military concepts i.e. marching etc, most training was done out on division. I am not sure when Peel House was established which served as a training facility for many years. I would also assume that on attestation Constables would have immediately be assigned a divisional number. So new recruits so to speak would probably be shown on divisional strengths. Again this is an assumption on my part so if anyone else can enlighten us I would be pleased to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Interesting question and not one I can answer properly without further research. Initial training would have been very limited in 1897 and be based on military concepts i.e. marching etc, most training was done out on division. I am not sure when Peel House was established which served as a training facility for many years. I would also assume that on attestation Constables would have immediately be assigned a divisional number. So new recruits so to speak would probably be shown on divisional strengths. Again this is an assumption on my part so if anyone else can enlighten us I would be pleased to hear it.Interesting question and not one I can answer properly without further research. Initial training would have been very limited in 1897 and be based on military concepts i.e. marching etc, most training was done out on division. I am not sure when Peel House was established which served as a training facility for many years. I would also assume that on attestation Constables would have immediately be assigned a divisional number. So new recruits so to speak would probably be shown on divisional strengths. Again this is an assumption on my part so if anyone else can enlighten us I would be pleased to hear it.Thanks Tom, that's certainly something for me to look into further! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Mk 3 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Officers were allocated their division when they attested which was probably the day they joined the Met - they would then have gone to their allocated division immediately. I suspect the list of recipients for the 1897 (and other Police Jubilee / Coronation) Medals was probably taken from the weekly pay lists for each division. Therefore if you were on the pay list for the week the Jubilee occurred then you got the medal. There are a few pay lists for 1891 in the National Archives but I suspect there may more around somewhere. If there are anymore it would be interesting to know as they show which sub division the man was serving in. I have come across the odd medal to men who had actually been discharged just before the Jubilee / Coronation. It may be their name had not yet been deleted from the pay list. A sample of a list for Y Div Highgate, Sub Division Kentish Town is attached: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 Thanks Odin, that's very interesting and something that I'll certainly look into!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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