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    Hi Joe....I've had a search through my books as well and can't find any info on this emblem. As you and Martin have said, possibly U-Boat (Hogels book as good as it is, isn't a complete work) or from a surface vessel unit.

    KR.....Peter

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    Fellow Researchers:

    This one has me stumped. I've looked quite a bit. I am hoping someone will be able to recognize this tradition badge.

    Thanks for any assistance.

    Joe

    Hey Joe, while I was surching through my literature I found the emblem

    it´s the emblem of the 2. Vorpostenflottille.There is an discription in

    the German Internationales Militaria-Magazin No. 82 from april 1996

    written by Eric Lefevre and Bertrand Malvaux

    Regards

    Andreas

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    Cap emblem from U- 653 worn by Funkmeister Herbert Kupfermann. He

    was living near my hometown and I got it directly from him 10 years ago.

    Andreas

    Great emblem, Andreas! I have a wooden plaque of this same logo from Funkmeister Kupfermann's estate.

    Best Regards,

    Erik

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    Hello,

    here is the badge for which I threw the dice.

    It has a story behind, but I am not relying on it but only on the badge which looked OK after I got better photos.

    It's weight is 4.00 grams, length 43,73 cm / 1.721 inch, width is 27,61cm / 1.102 inch

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    Hey there!
    I saw an interesting topic on the forum and want to show that I have
    I collect the German divisional Badges and among them is my cockade related to your topic;)
    I have identified three Badges and fourth can`t define maybe you can help me in defining;)
    If someone has divisional Badges and wants to exchange them for these icons, you are welcome;)
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    On 23/01/2008 at 21:12, Erik Krogh said:

    Here's an interesting tradition badge: the Mercedes 3-point star. It is very small (approximately 13 MM) and came in a lot from Detlev Niemann that also included a very finely board-made U-boat in brass (very heavy, for use on a plaque), some photos of U-Boat crews with Albrecht Brandi as CO, and a small folded paper "paper hat" with U-107's "4 aces" logo.

     

    I just came across a photo of what is apparently the same small Mercedes insignia being worn by an officer on U-195. U-195 was one of only two Type IX D-1 boats (the other being U-180). If I remember correctly, both of these boats utilized experimental Mercedes diesel engines, hence the Mercedes star as a tradition badge.

     

    Here is a sampling of the group, with the Mercedes badge on top.

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    Erik,

    I think this specific paper folded boat does show the emblem of U-3003/U-3013  (see attached picture). I merely wonder as to what the words "Edit Ihrens" mean. Is it a woman's name? 

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    On 20/03/2012 at 18:23, dedehansen said:

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    Cap emblem from U- 653 worn by Funkmeister Herbert Kupfermann. He

     

    was living near my hometown and I got it directly from him 10 years ago.

     

    Andreas

    one week ago I stumbled upon this cap badge, 4 days too late for my personal gain, because it was already sold. It, however, reminded me of the cap badge that dedehansen had once posted in this forum. They look very similar, but this one has a pin on its flipside, 

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    Great thread Gents!

    Here are three ground dug cap emblems that my brother found with metal detector in former KM naval base in Swinoujscie (Swunemunde). All three were attached to the same cap (or to what was left of it). In the same pit he also found zinc unmarked u-boat badge (Meybauer) and zinc Schwerin u-boat clasp. Sorry for bad images. I may ask him to take better pictures if needed.

    Cheers,

    Hubert

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    On 21/01/2019 at 22:57, Bubba_Z said:

    Great thread Gents!

    Here are three ground dug cap emblems that my brother found with metal detector in former KM naval base in Swinoujscie (Swunemunde). All three were attached to the same cap (or to what was left of it). In the same pit he also found zinc unmarked u-boat badge (Meybauer) and zinc Schwerin u-boat clasp. Sorry for bad images. I may ask him to take better pictures if needed.

    Cheers,

    Hubert

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    U-1063?   Or perhaps a Kriegsmarine surface ship?  The cat reminds me of U-48 etc. but the fleur-de-lis tell me they are of french (paris) origin. They are probably not u-boat cap badges, if cap badges at all. For they only sport one boring hole. Again, the lilies are rather French than Teutonic.

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    The original U-223 crew badge cap badge with original color versus the repro one with the brown cup and green/white background.1348882787_fakebadges.jpg.86f41cc7cd6a9783dfe8db65f770f293.jpg1808708702_Schermafbeelding2019-01-26om23_16_29.thumb.png.c33bca7c11e547907114bf204dac548b.png

    Please post original U-boat/U-boot Flotilla badges. Not only I am curious as to what the originals look like. It is important to keep them real, and tell fakes from real ones. There are too much fake badges/pins on Ebay et al. already.525987243_Schermafbeelding2019-01-26om23_32_31.thumb.png.983c807f49b61265c861a1ea4c97c85d.png

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       Is this a real 5. U-Flottille badge? Or perhaps merely aged? The badge itself 

       is copper so I think it is real, but do modern hoaxers shy away from the real?

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