Chris Boonzaier Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So, this arrived today.... anyone want to hazard a guess why this document is fantastically interesting? You may of course google..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Second battle of Ypres? Poison gas? Tell us, tell us...! /Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 The the handwritten script looks a bit belabored. Is it a fake? The date on this is one day before the regiment was formed? And a Württemberger? Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I can't see anything wrong with the writing, I need to study more docs. Why is the date 1916 printed in the top right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Hello! I don´t see something mystic. Well the paper is printed with 1916, but probably they had those papersrecieved in 1915 for two or three years. No-one knew, how long that war would last... The first gas-units were two Pio companies in january 1915. They were first called "Desinfektionstruppe". Those companies came to the 4th army, were raised up to six companies. The OHL ordered to form a regiment with two bataillons with three companies each, end of march 1915. This one was called Pi.Rgt.35 since april 12, 1915. The first gas-attack started april 22, 1915 north of Ypres. Ca. 6 o´clock p.m. the gas-cylinders were opened versus the 87th Territorial and 45th Inf.Div.. The wind came from north with 2m/sec. So this document awarded Vizefeldwebel Schmitt, who was engaged with that regiment in that attack! It was not nice for the belgium troops. The Belgians informed the french high command a few days ago, that there could be a gas-attack. But they ignored it... Gas ain´t good. My grandfather was injured by a gas attack in 1918 Great document!!!! Edited June 8, 2016 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Very interesting. That's a good piece of history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) All that Andy said! plus: Vizefeldwebel Schmitt was transferred from Feldluftschifftrupp 5 fascinating Edited June 8, 2016 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Indeed.... what we have here... At the beginning of 1916 there was an order that recipients of the iron Cross should recieve preliminary award documents and that those units whichhad not being issuing them should do so.... usually blanks were sent to the unit who then filled them out and distributed them. As there were no orders as to how this was to be done you have units which signed and stamped, signed but did not stamp, stamp but did not sign, or as in this case neither signed not stamped. Chip is correct, the day of the award the regiment was still called Gasregiment Peterson, but by the time the award was made it was Pionier Regiment 35. And I think we can date it to the gas attack on the 22nd of April, maybe the worst attack of the war as the opposing allied troops were not expecting it and had no protection.... So not a nice incident, but a historically interesting document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian R Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Definitely a fascinating award document and it's always amazing to see the way you guys can dissect and interpret such pieces when the details are so overlapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Liontas Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Amazing piece of history. Gas was so widely used after this, to have a document from the first such incident. Very nice! Where on earth did you find it Chris?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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