dante Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Slight change in direction with this document, first to a "flyer" welcome your thoughts as to what I have, as ever thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernhard H.Holst Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hello Dante. The Kriegsstammrolle shown here, contains a soldiers complete history while under arms and is in a very detailed set-up. Unfortunately I am unable to enlarge the pages however he served in a Schlachtfluzeugstaffel ( close-support unit) and continued after the cease-fire to serve in the eastern portion of then Germany in the protection of the border region. It certainly seems like a very interesting document. Thank you for showing it. Bernhard H. Holst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Grenzschutz-Flieger-Abteilung 409 was a Freikorps air unit that served in Upper Silesia from December 1918 until September 1919 when all air force units were disbanded and planes were ordered destroyed under the Versailles treaty. All German Freikorps air units were designated as a Flieger Abteilung with a '400' number. They numbered FA400 - FA433. Each Flieger Abteilung had 3 squadrons of 6 planes each with 2 additional planes held in reserve (i.e. totalling 20 planes per Abteilung). It states he was first in Freikorps Flieger Abteilung Schlesien on April 5, 1919 which later became Grenzschutz FA 409 and in June 5, 1919 was posted to Kommando Flieger 21, Ober Kommando Nord (basically: Fighter Command 21, which was equivalent to an air wing at the Northern Headquarters In Jüterbog, NE Germany). It would be a help if you could scan some close-ups of the document to see more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks guys will do so asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, dante said: Thanks guys will do so asap By the way, he seems to have served in air units from the beginning and fought on both the Eastern and Western fronts during the war and got the EK I and II, silver wound badge and then the Silesian Eagle I and II for serving in Silesia in the Freikorps. So far this is a pretty outstanding document, IMO. Edited September 19, 2016 by bolewts58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderbaum Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hi Anyone knew who took over the command of FA 409 when Hptm Schulz left in May 1919 and before Oblt Müller took over ? Gunnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Soderbaum said: Hi Anyone knew who took over the command of FA 409 when Hptm Schulz left in May 1919 and before Oblt Müller took over ? Gunnar It might have been Otto Abernetty. But, I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Not sure these are any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You need to scan them 'size as' at a resolution of 300 dpi, so they can be zoomed. Unfortunately, the images are too small to read completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Thanks, agree, just waiting for a new printer, will get them done asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) The soldier was a Gefreiter in the Schlachtfliegerstaffel 201. He entered the air force in 1914 at the Flieger-Abteilung 5. Later he served as an observer with the Jagdstaffel 30 commanded by flying ace 1st Lieutnant Hans Bethge (20 aerial victories). There he got both classes of the Iron Cross as Gefreiter! After the end of the war 1918 he entered the Aviator Freikorps (Grenzschutz-Flieger-Abteilung 409) then fighting in Upper Silesia and received both classes of the Silesian Eagle. Question, what awards for flying would he have? any other info as ever gratefully received Edited October 3, 2016 by dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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