Frosty

British Military College Mess Jacket?

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ID: 1   Posted

Hello, have looked, and can find no information on this jacket, cumberbund and pillbox hat. There is also a square (2 1/2 ft by 2 1/2 foot) silk piece. It is dark blue with light blue and gold stripes. Epaulette buttons and lapel insignia have been removed. The owner's name,  A F Powell is on the jacket. I think it is from a British Military College. Your input would be appreciated. 

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ID: 2   Posted

Frosty,

Can't really help much other than to say that the jacket follows the basic cut and design of  Mess Dress but being made from what appears to be white light weight material would have been worn in hot climate postings such as Cyprus or Hong Kong. The epaulettes are unusual though, pretty sure that most Mess Dress uniforms do not have these and so could even be a jacket with no Military connection, House Staff, Doormen or something like that. Is there a Tailors Label inside?

Regarding the other items, they may have a connection to a Public School somewhere but you would have to search and find out which School wore those colours.

Sorry couldn't be of much help.

Regards Simon.

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ID: 3   Posted

The pillbox trim colors suggest RAF to me?

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ID: 4   Posted

Hugh,

Close but not quite,

Simon

Image result for raf colours

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ID: 5   Posted

3 minutes ago, coldstream said:

Hugh,

Close but not quite,

Simon

Image result for raf colours

"Close" was generous.  I should have remembered this.

H

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ID: 6   Posted

Hugh

It is however very similar to the Air Crew Europe Star ribbon

Image result for air crew europe star

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ID: 7   Posted

Thanks for taking a look Simon and Hugh. Pillbox maker was J G Plumb, Military Tailors, 117 Victoria St; Westminister. Coat is made of a canvas type material. Again , thanks   Don

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ID: 8   Posted

The two mess jackets I own both have shoulder straps fitted, other than that I cannot add anything to the discussion.  Perhaps a school army cadet uniform rather than military college.

 

I also have a unknown pillbox perhaps form a similar source or maybe a band in the case of the one I have.

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ID: 9   Posted

My only contribution is to suggest that perhaps the square is meant for an ascot.  The use of canvas is odd and suggests, to me a s well, a warmer climate than the UK.  The colour scheme is also a bit 'loud', IMO.  A school of some sort but perhaps not a service institution would be my guess. 

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Hello Jerry and Peter, an ascot was what I was also thinking, and yes, it does seem gaudy for a military college. It came with other militaria stuff, so thought it was worth looking into. Thanks for your comments.  Don

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Here is the stable belt worn by Welbeck College the Army's sixth form college, hope it helps

cheers

sean

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Hello Sean, the stable belt is close, will see what info I can find re Welbeck College.  Appreciate your efforts.   Don

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"By Jove, I think he's got it!'  Looks as if Welbeck College may be the answer.  Well spotted, sir.

 

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The fact that there is what appears to be a college scarf and cap would also make sense.

cheers

sean

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