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Order of Merits for the People 3rd Class
Numbers over 100K, hallmarked (IKOM and rooster) narrower screw nuts.
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It's been a while since my last post, let's continue. 

Order of Merits for the People 2nd class
Numbers 30K-50K, hallmarked, narrower screw nuts.
A few 3XXXX examples.
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Labor Order 2nd Class 
This one's particularly interesting. First of all is this type even suppose to exist?! I don't remember seeing IKOM screw type at all (not counting ZNB orders with replaced screws nuts, of course) and I'm pretty sure you won't find it in books. 
They hit the market couple of years ago, just a few examples got sold and then they disappeared. A few examples look very suspicious, apart from that "cheap" look some of the details are pretty bad and they feel "soft" if you know what I mean.
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8316 is a rare bird.  The arrows you use point to look like, maybe, very poor manufacturing at the soldering point.  I imagine the main medal blank being coined by trained professionals and then sent along to some noob to attache the screw and was just too drunk to get it right.

The yellowish tint to the screwpost and the surrounding area raises questions as well.

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I'm very skeptical  because I really don't remember seeing them before at all, not a single one (not counting fakes and replaced screw nuts) and then all of a sudden a certain number appears in 2016 in a very short period of time.
In the beginning 2nd and 3rd classes were made only by ZIN/ZNB and IKOM made 1st classes. At some point IKOM also started producing lower classes, when exactly I don't know but it was later because they are with double horizontal needles. By the way IKOM was even remaking some of the older ZIN/ZNB screw types.
You can't find them in Sammler's base and I'm pretty sure no one mentioned them in the literature.
On top of everything their quality is not that great, especially for decorations which should be from the '40s-'50s. I'll make some comparisons tomorrow, it's getting late over here :)
Since the only difference between 2nd and 3rd class is the gilt it would be logical to assume IKOM made both of them. Has anyone seen a 3rd class like that? I haven't.

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I'm reading, with some delay, this and other interesting discussions.

I would like to hear your opinion about this one, recently popped up on ebay. I'm puzzled by more than just the screw nuts.

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Cheers,
Drugo

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I forgot to add those to the list, thanks for pointing it out, Drugo.
They also caught my eye. It's interesting that all of those shinny ones have 23XX number and their quantity on the market certainly raises some suspicions, I've seen at least of them 15 so far. And like you said it's not just the screw nuts, they also have that "shinny" look and couple of other details are different compared to orders with lower numbers.

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I've seen only a few orders with those pre-WW2 type of screw nuts, one of our forum members has a piece like that in his collection. 
Others have so-called "butterfly" screw nuts and there's a certain number of remade ones with needles.
That piece from shopbulgaria also has 23XX number and it's was the first one I saw with butterfly screw nuts, perhaps someone replaced them.

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