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16th Battalion Welsh Regiment. Cardiff pals badge.

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Hi Gents

the only badge I've ever gone looking for. As a Cardiff boy born and bred I couldn't resist.

It was bought before I knew people faked everything we treasure and revere. 

So. With a big 'gulp' I share this....

all opinions appreciated either way...

Cardiff Pals Badge.

30 x 45 mm ish

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cheers Gents

tony

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Tony,

Never had the chance to examine an original so couldn't comment on yours, however thanks for showing a rarely encountered Cap Badge.

Regards Simon.

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2 hours ago, coldstream said:

Tony,

Never had the chance to examine an original so couldn't comment on yours, however thanks for showing a rarely encountered Cap Badge.

Regards Simon.

Thanks Simon,

I'd never seen one when I got it but I suspect I've seen copies since.

I'm pretty sure it's a good un though. Glad you like it either way...

Problem now is I dug out my Brit badges, buttons and the rest to find it, I might regret starting it but think I'm gonna do a thread of everything while I look through it....

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Wish me luck!

Cheees tony

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Sadly I have to offer my opinion in it being a copy.

 

 

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On 07/11/2017 at 21:27, coldstream said:

Tony,

Never had the chance to examine an original so couldn't comment on yours, however thanks for showing a rarely encountered Cap Badge.

Regards Simon.

Actually, it is a collar badge, not for the cap.

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Excellent photographs Jerry, thanks for posting, never ever seen them before, and good to see them in wear on the uniform.

Regards Simon.

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4 minutes ago, coldstream said:

Excellent photographs Jerry, thanks for posting, never ever seen them before, and good to see them in wear on the uniform.

Regards Simon.

Simon,

They were both copied from the web, thanks to someone else is due for them.

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5 hours ago, Jerry B said:

Sadly I have to offer my opinion in it being a copy.

 

 

16th Cardiff service bn not pals badges detail.jpg

Actually, it is a collar badge, not for the cap.

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No doubts now about it being a copy!

5 hours ago, coldstream said:

Excellent photographs Jerry, thanks for posting, never ever seen them before, and good to see them in wear on the uniform.

Regards Simon.

Thanks for posting the pics Jerry

the difference in the two is clear to see

and I love that one of them in wear.......

tony

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18 hours ago, Farkas said:

No doubts now about it being a copy!

Thanks for posting the pics Jerry

the difference in the two is clear to see

and I love that one of them in wear.......

tony

Sorry to have been the bearer of bad news.

By the way, I am also a Cardiff lad, well not a lad any more and no longer living in the Diff.

My Cardiff Pals medal.

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Another photo of a Cardiff pals man, note he wears the Welsh cap badge

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Hi Gents, Jerry,

could you tell me which cap badge that would be? Now I know I've 'got' an XL collar dog not a cap badge!

cheers

tony

 

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7 hours ago, Farkas said:

Hi Gents, Jerry,

could you tell me which cap badge that would be? Now I know I've 'got' an XL collar dog not a cap badge!

cheers

tony

 

Tony,

A standard WELSH regiment OR's bi metal I think for the pals.  Note during the pre 1920 period the Welch wore the badge with the spelling WelSh with an S not a C which is seen on post 1920 badges.

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10 hours ago, Jerry B said:

A standard WELSH regiment OR's bi metal I think for the pals.  Note during the pre 1920 period the Welch wore the badge with the spelling WelSh with an S not a C which is seen on post 1920 badges.

 

Nice one, thanks Jerry,

i appreciate the reply...

ive definitely got a doubtful one (reverse) of those and I think another one that may be proper.

im not sure of the spelling on them mind.

ill have a rummage for them and share a coupla pics.....

tony

 

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Hi Gents

I'm missing one I think I have but have dug out these.....

 

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Surely no-one is faking these staybrite yet!

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This next one is the one I think might be dodgey? The back looks flat not as vaulted as others.....

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this next one I haven't labelled but might be Welsh....

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hope you like Gents

comments always welcome whatever!

tony

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Tony, the first one is welsh brigade form the 60's or Gurkhas, second is welch and is possibly ok, last is the welsh with the bottom scroll cut off

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Hi Jerry.....

i have the first one pegged as The Royal Welsh...

Just looked at the third and there is that little bit left of the scroll...

Nice one mate. Wouldn't have noticed that or thought of it as chopped even... nice one.

Cheers from the 'Diff' !

tony

11 hours ago, Jerry B said:

Tony, the first one is welsh brigade form the 60's or Gurkhas, second is welch and is possibly ok, last is the welsh with the bottom scroll cut off

 

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Nice!

I love getting it wrong! Luckily!

my staybrite must be Welsh Brigade.....

cheers Jerry

tony

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Tony,

I have a few Welsh badges, probably a few more than shown in these pictures as these are now out of date.

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Hi Jerry an Gents

im staggered!

Jerry, Are these your focus, your No.1 thing or ?

im a bit of a magpie so my mind boggles. Do you mind me asking do you have a lot of other badges??

Ive 'only' got two fusiliers badges.

The one is a dug up . The other, a bi-metal is well rubbed. I'll find them and post.

til then Jerry.....

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hope you like....

tony

 

 

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Great lot of badges there Jerry. I started collecting various cap badges back in the 90s only to find at a later date that many were restrikes, that put me off them.

Tony, do you know Hewitt has two sets of records online? Under his 61598 number and 39204 too.

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17 hours ago, Tony said:

Tony, do you know Hewitt has two sets of records online? Under his 61598 number and 39204 too

Hi Tony

thanks for your reply

Regrettably i have never researched it... or the majority of my others.

I'm behind the times a bit when it comes to the web 

Are Hewitt's records available to all  or pay per view??

((About 2 years ago I got given an old I phone. Until then i had been off line for about ten years, I didn't know what I was missing! a lot has changed since XP on my Pc))

 

18 hours ago, Tony said:

. I started collecting various cap badges back in the 90s only to find at a later date that many were restrikes, that put me off them.

I found the same Tony. Both medals and badges - I still referred to books that said certain things proved originality - no longer. I had no idea how things had changed. Can't trust much nowadays.... sadly.

cheers

tony

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Mate, it isn't free so pm me your email and I'll send the papers over. There's nothing exciting there but it tells you a little about the man behind the medal.

Tony

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On 23/11/2017 at 06:04, Tony said:

Mate, it isn't free so pm me your email and I'll send the papers over. There's nothing exciting there but it tells you a little about the man behind the medal.

Tony

Received safe and sound thanks again Tony

tony

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Hi Gents, Jerry

On 21/11/2017 at 23:02, Farkas said:

Ive 'only' got two fusiliers badges.

The one is a dug up . The other, a bi-metal is well rubbed. I'll find them and post.

til then Jerry.....

 

my two Jerry....

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hope you like 

tony

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 amongst these....

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