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Saxon and Bavarian Schulterklappen--need to know I have them ID'd OK

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I got this grouping and wanted to be sure I am identifying them properly. The officer board with green I presume is Saxon, but beyond that, clueless. Jäger, perhaps,, if I am not missing some other possibility. I gather a cypher or number would have really helped.

Bavarian 3 Landwehr or Reserve Infanterie? 

Beamter--anything special or specific?

I know the enlisted 20 is a simplified model.  Do the numbers seem to indicate Bavarian?

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Vielen Dank!

 

 

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Hello Fritz!

You´re right with the 3rd regiment. Reserve or Landwehr.

What is the base colour of the reverse of the bavarian Beamter? Red?

If red we have different officials...:  Administrator, Rendant, Kriegsgerichtsrat, Telegraphen-Oberbaurat and more...

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Hallo Andy! Thanks.

Basically I am trying to ID these properly so I can choose what to keep or trade off/sell. 

The Beamter is dirty and deceptive with the original colour, but seems to be a burgundy velvet. I have a single Kragenspiegel I bought  in a close colour that Chip thought was General Staff,  The Beamter has more of what I would call a "dried blood version" of this colour:

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The Royal Bavarian Army was a independent one . their units were not numbered into the Reichsheer.at the beginning of WW1 numbered 4089 active officers , doctors , veterinarian and beamten. and 83125 NCOs and soldiers.It was organized with three Army Corps ,six Divisions .each division with four Infantry regiments . numbered apart . 

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Hello!

The difference is the colour. The beamten had karmesinrot (crimson), ponceaurot (a little bit darker) and hochrot (a little bit brighter)

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General staff patches for M1910 uniform were crimson . a rather pinkish red . the patch that you shows is for me a General Staff one. 

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22 minutes ago, Bayern said:

General staff patches for M1910 uniform were crimson . a rather pinkish red . the patch that you shows is for me a General Staff one. 

That confirms what I was told. Thanks. 

Does the enlisted Feldgrau "20" strike you as Bavarian, or is it anyone's guess?

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Fritz : Yes ,its possible .the Royal Bavarian Army at the beginning of the war numbered 23 line Infantry Regiments and the Leib Rgt . except the Leib ,all weared Shoulderboards with only the number in chainstitching as your SB.

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Bayern, thanks, I am aware of the numbering. It is the style I wonder about--would you say the numbers themselves look more Bavarian in construction?

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Fritz : The style of number was rather uniform for all the German Empire Armies .

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