Jurgen Fritz Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Hi Gents, I have a Spanish Leather Belt & Buckle (1936/39 Civil War?) I wonder if they where worn in German Condor Legion? Any friendly INFO very appreciated! Thanks & Regards Jurgen P.S. here Buckle & Catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I'm no expert, but this looks to me like the insignia of the Spanish Army. Of course, it could still have been worn by the Legion Condor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 P.S. here Buckle & Catch Hi Hugh thanks for your Interest so much I also figured.. It's the "Ducal open Crown" used by General Franco over the San Juan Eagle & Santiago Cross the Claws on later 1943 Pattern are different,I wonder also if the "Blue Division" painted there Buckle "Blue?" (Here Pics?)maybe there is some Friend who knows more?Thanks again Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hi Gents I seen two Buckles (one Spanish one German II WW Time) showing Rest of "Blue Paint"? "Divisione Azul "? any Idea Please Thanks& Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 I'm no expert, but this looks to me like the insignia of the Spanish Army. Of course, it could still have been worn by the Legion Condor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Jurgen : The Legion Condor weared special made belts and buckles . of tan leather .officers Sam Browne model , NCOs and troopers ,a rectangular koppelschloss much alike that of the Wehrmacht but plain without any badge . the Legion marched to Spain fully equiped and seems improbable the use of Spanish belt buckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Hello Bayern, Thanks for Your friendly Answer.. I just read the opposite in an old Record :The Legion Condor Soldiers left (& arrived in Spain) in "Civilian Cloth" Marshingboots & Rifle to be fully equipped in Spain ..?actually the Equipment was very bad for Uniforms (even Blankets for the Winter where not given out!) I seen many of this "German Style peppelt plain Belt Buckle"(Some say they where used by "German Penalty Units!")maybe the Legion used them,they still in for sale as such..more Research is needed?Thanks & Regards Jurgen Edited April 24, 2018 by Jurgen Fritz additions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 P.S Not easy to find a Photo Legion Condor Soldiers with Spanish Belt,this Panzer soldier on the right looks like he waring one? Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Hello Bayer, The mentioned Officer "Sam Brown Style" Belts worn by the Legion Condor Officers where also given by the Spanish,I seen some marked "El Caballo Sevilla" they where used in the Spanish Army before & in the Civil war.. Regards Jurgen Edited April 24, 2018 by Jurgen Fritz addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 P.S. Hi Gents I found Photo of Legion Condor Ground forces Panzer Uniform (obviously with "Spanish Belt") I read also that the Uniforms where Taylord in Spain Best Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Legion Condor Soldier with Spanish Belt & Buckle Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hello : Certainly appears evident that the Spanish belt buckles were used. at least by the land troops. the Spanish Sam Browne was the current belt of Army officers . The Condors went in civilian clothes but with all their equipment . including uniforms in the cut of the Luftwaffe ones in brownish olive green cloth but without any distinction marking nationality . Once in Spain they adopted Spanish badges of rank . the grained belt buckle was plain . precisely to not show any . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hello Bayern Thanks for Your Interest! Well,so far (was my Question) we know that Spanish Army Belts were used (ad least by the Ground troops) of the "German Legion Condor"..my sec Question about use of "Blue Paint" on "Division AZUL" Equipment IIWW? (I found a Picture of some Helmets &ct?) Best Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hello Bayern I just read again: The German "Legion Condor" Volunteers arrived in "Civil clothing" & given first an "Armband" in the Spanish Colors:Red yellow red. End of 1936 all "Adopted" a new Khaki Uniform fashioned on the "Spanish Legion" Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Hi Gents: here an Article from:"Zeitschrift fuer Heeres Uni form Kunde 1940 Hamburg by Diepenbundler Gunther& Schulz about Uniform of the Legion Condor Maybe interesting? Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Division AZUL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfek Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 This type of buckle is a 1943 type for enlisted. Maybe the latest replacement of the Blue Div. wore them on the way to the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 Thanks Dolfek! That's interesting Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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