Field Marshal Garnet Wolseley

[filfoster]

Can any one identify the medals here?

[QSAMIKE]

If you read his bio on line you can see a list of his medals...….

[filfoster]

Do you have the URL for this?  I have read several online and print bios and can guess at some of his medals but not all.  The Wikipedia bio has a summary that allows guesses for the medals but it's not clear how these are presented on the bar in the photo. I was hoping someone had particular knowledge of this medal bar in the photo.  The first medal is difficult to see.  

Edited September 21, 2018 by filfoster

[filfoster]

Here is a display of his medals:  What is the first one?  His first posting was to Burma. This doesn't look like anything awarded for that (not sure anything was); is it the 1854 India General Service medal?:

http://thisisalix.blogspot.com/2012/11/curators-national-army-museum.html

 

Edited September 21, 2018 by filfoster

[Megan]

India General Service Medal 1854-1895.

The clasps awarded are listed here: http://medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom031.htm

These do include expeditions to Burma...

[filfoster]

Can anyone tell what the bottom order breast star is?  Looks like a Prussian Black or Red Eagle to me.

[paul wood]

Red eagle

Paul

[filfoster]

Thank you!  Can you tell if it's with or without swords?

Edited September 23, 2018 by filfoster

[filfoster]

Last medal is the Turkish Crimea medal, following the Legion of Honor and the Medjidie?

[QSAMIKE]

From the collection of the Glenbow Museum of Calgary...….

There is a large collection of items from the Wolseley Family including the following miniature medals...…

Title: Order of the Bath Medal; The Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George Medal; Prussian Order of the Red Eagle; Order of Osmanieh; Legion of Honour Medal; Order of Medjidie; Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal; King Edward VII Coronation Medal

Date: 1855-1902

Part of a chest of eight miniature orders and medals, court mounted, awarded to Field Marshal Viscount Wolseley.

Transcript on Order of the Bath Medal (both sides): TRIA JUNCTA INUNO ICH DIEN
Transcript on The Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George Medal (both sides): AUSPICIUM MELIORIS AEVI
Transcript on the Prussian Order of the Red Eagle (obverse): SINGERE ET CONSTANTER
Transcript on the Order of Osmanieh (obverse): [text in Arabic script]
Transcript on the Legion of Honour Medal (obverse): NAPOLEON EMP. D. F[--]NC.
(reverse): HONNEUR ET PATRIE
Transcript on the Order of Medjidie (obverse): [text in Arabic script]
Transcript on the Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal (obverse): VICTORIA D.C. REGINA ET IMPERATRIX F.D.
(reverse): IN COMMEMORATION OF THE 50th YEAR OF THE REIGN OF QUEEN VICTORIA 21 JUNE 1887
Transcript on the King Edward VII Coronation Medal (obverse): R VII 26 June 1902

AND

Title: India General Service Medal; Crimea Medal; China Medal; Indian Mutiny Medal; Ashantee Medal; South Africa Medal; Egypt Medal; Khedive's Bronze Star; Turkish Crimea Medal

Date: 1854; 1854; 1860; 1857-1858; 1879; 1877-1879; 1882-1889; 1882-1889; 1855

Nine court mounted miniature medals awarded to Field Marshal Viscount Wolseley (from left to right): Second Indian General service medal 1854, with bar "Pegu"; Crimea Medal 1854-56, with bar, "Sebastopol"; China medal 1857-60, with bars "Pekin 1860" and "Taku Forts 1860"; Indian mutiny medal 1857-58, with bars "Relief of Lucknow" and "Lucknow"; Ashanti Medal 1879, with bar "Coomassie"; South Africa Medal with bar "1879"; Egypt Medal 1882-89, with bar "Alexandria 11th July"; Khedives Star 1882-89; Turkish Crimea Medal 1855.

Transcript of text on India General Service Medal: [bar] PEGU
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
Transcript on Crimea Medal: [bar] SEBASTOPOL
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
1854
Transcript on China Medal: [upper band] PEKIN 1860
[lower band] TAKU FORTS 1860
[medal] ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM
CHINA
Transcript on Indian Mutiny Medal: [upper band] [--]LIEEOFLUCKNOW
[lower band] LUCKNOW
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
A and H
Transcript on Ashantee Medal: [bar] COOMASSIE:
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
Transcript on South Africa Medal: [band] 1879
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
Transcript on Egypt Medal: [bar] ALEXANDRIA II :: JULY
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA ET IMPERATRIX
Transcript on Khedive's Bronze Star: [medal] EGYPT 1882
[text in Arabic script]
Transcript on Turkish Crimea Medal: [medal] CRIMEA
1885

Due to Glenbow Museums Ownership I cannot post pictures...…

Mike

[filfoster]

Mike: Thanks!  This is a help.  It doesn't conform exactly to the bar shown above (e.g., no Canada General Service for the Fenien Raid expedition), but both miniature bars together help confirm pretty much all the ones shown in the photo.

I may be wrong about the Canadian medal; it wasn't awarded until 1899 and may not have been included in this bar. The photo, as far as I know, isn't dated. 

NOTE: The picture is probably circa 1895, which explains the missing Canada medal.

Edited October 1, 2018 by filfoster

[filfoster]

The first medal has no clasp.  Any guesses that it's not the 2nd India General Service medal?

I make the order:

1. Maybe India General Service?  No clasp in photo

2. Crimea with Sebastapol clasp

3. China with Pekin and Taku Forts clasps

4. India Mutiny medal with Lucknow and Relief of Lucknow clasps

5. Ashanti medal Coomassie clasp

6. South Africa medal 1879 clasp

7. Egypt medal with Alexandria 11 July clasp

8. Victoria 50th Jubilee medal

9. Kehdive star

10. Turkish Crimean war medal

The French Legion of Honor and Turkish Medidjie medal 5th class mounted above and over the Khedive Star and Turkish Crimea medals, which to my eye, is a very attractive complication and solution for an otherwise unwieldy long bar.

Edited October 10, 2018 by filfoster

[filfoster]

I make the Red Eagle without swords only because it's not distinct enough with the resolution I'm able to get on enlargement.

[filfoster]

Any more help here?

[filfoster]

Waiting for one more medal to post photo of replica medal bar.

[filfoster]

Upload of photo of replica bar failed. Can't delete post!

Edited December 7, 2018 by filfoster

[filfoster]

  No luck uploading files!  What gives?

Edited December 28, 2018 by filfoster

[Alex K]

On 28/09/2018 at 19:55, QSAMIKE said:

From the collection of the Glenbow Museum of Calgary...….

There is a large collection of items from the Wolseley Family including the following miniature medals...…

Title: Order of the Bath Medal; The Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George Medal; Prussian Order of the Red Eagle; Order of Osmanieh; Legion of Honour Medal; Order of Medjidie; Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal; King Edward VII Coronation Medal

Date: 1855-1902

Part of a chest of eight miniature orders and medals, court mounted, awarded to Field Marshal Viscount Wolseley.

Transcript on Order of the Bath Medal (both sides): TRIA JUNCTA INUNO ICH DIEN
Transcript on The Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George Medal (both sides): AUSPICIUM MELIORIS AEVI
Transcript on the Prussian Order of the Red Eagle (obverse): SINGERE ET CONSTANTER
Transcript on the Order of Osmanieh (obverse): [text in Arabic script]
Transcript on the Legion of Honour Medal (obverse): NAPOLEON EMP. D. F[--]NC.
(reverse): HONNEUR ET PATRIE
Transcript on the Order of Medjidie (obverse): [text in Arabic script]
Transcript on the Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal (obverse): VICTORIA D.C. REGINA ET IMPERATRIX F.D.
(reverse): IN COMMEMORATION OF THE 50th YEAR OF THE REIGN OF QUEEN VICTORIA 21 JUNE 1887
Transcript on the King Edward VII Coronation Medal (obverse): R VII 26 June 1902

AND

Title: India General Service Medal; Crimea Medal; China Medal; Indian Mutiny Medal; Ashantee Medal; South Africa Medal; Egypt Medal; Khedive's Bronze Star; Turkish Crimea Medal

Date: 1854; 1854; 1860; 1857-1858; 1879; 1877-1879; 1882-1889; 1882-1889; 1855

Nine court mounted miniature medals awarded to Field Marshal Viscount Wolseley (from left to right): Second Indian General service medal 1854, with bar "Pegu"; Crimea Medal 1854-56, with bar, "Sebastopol"; China medal 1857-60, with bars "Pekin 1860" and "Taku Forts 1860"; Indian mutiny medal 1857-58, with bars "Relief of Lucknow" and "Lucknow"; Ashanti Medal 1879, with bar "Coomassie"; South Africa Medal with bar "1879"; Egypt Medal 1882-89, with bar "Alexandria 11th July"; Khedives Star 1882-89; Turkish Crimea Medal 1855.

Transcript of text on India General Service Medal: [bar] PEGU
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
Transcript on Crimea Medal: [bar] SEBASTOPOL
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
1854
Transcript on China Medal: [upper band] PEKIN 1860
[lower band] TAKU FORTS 1860
[medal] ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM
CHINA
Transcript on Indian Mutiny Medal: [upper band] [--]LIEEOFLUCKNOW
[lower band] LUCKNOW
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
A and H
Transcript on Ashantee Medal: [bar] COOMASSIE:
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
Transcript on South Africa Medal: [band] 1879
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA
Transcript on Egypt Medal: [bar] ALEXANDRIA II :: JULY
[medal] VICTORIA REGINA ET IMPERATRIX
Transcript on Khedive's Bronze Star: [medal] EGYPT 1882
[text in Arabic script]
Transcript on Turkish Crimea Medal: [medal] CRIMEA
1885

Due to Glenbow Museums Ownership I cannot post pictures...…

Mike

Hi all I realise this is an old thread, but found this which may answer a few questions if they hav'nt already been answered!! No igs 1854 on there

 

Try wearing that on your chest?

Edited May 22, 2021 by Alex K

[filfoster]

On 22/05/2021 at 02:26, Alex K said:

Hi all I realise this is an old thread, but found this which may answer a few questions if they hav'nt already been answered!! No igs 1854 on there

 

Try wearing that on your chest?

Thanks...that's a lift a stuff.  He obviously didn't wear all he was entitled to (unlike Sir John French). Looks like we got the ones in his portrait, though.

[filfoster]

"lift" = "lot".   Auto correct is not.

[QSAMIKE]

One of the sad things is that when we had the big flood here we lost 2 large trunks full of the Wolseley family papers and a number of books that had been presented to him.....  After the water had gone they were found under a very thick coating of mud, just mush......

 

Mike

[Alex K]

22 minutes ago, QSAMIKE said:

One of the sad things is that when we had the big flood here we lost 2 large trunks full of the Wolseley family papers and a number of books that had been presented to him.....  After the water had gone they were found under a very thick coating of mud, just mush......

 

Mike

What a shame!