reichsrommel Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Some hopeful news: they CAN be researched. I am in touch with somebody with access to the right local authorities. It would go into too much detail right here right now to explain further. Depending on work priorities, I may decide to travel to North Korea Q1 next year to further pursue this.That is a wonderful news!!Tang Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 That is a wonderful news!!Tang SiWell, let's celebrate once I see a successful result... which will require:- travelling to DPRK- overcoming some hurdles- then seeing: what actually exists in the archives - just a name/date or "holy grail"?Am in contact with a member of government who has indicated ability to facilitate this process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 My Order of Labor is on the way!I can't wait... WilliamHere's my Order of Labor.I have to say that's very nice award!William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchBoy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 That's a lovely piece! Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Yes, that first variety Order of Labor is a nice one. Is yours numbered? Documented? (OK, we have to HOPE....)Lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Yes, that first variety Order of Labor is a nice one. Is yours numbered? Documented? (OK, we have to HOPE....)Lovely! No document for this award. It is numbered though and it looks worn , so I hope it was awarded to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) A nice article has just been published, "Unusual 'Heroes' of North Korea", by Robin C. Chiang, Journal of the Orders and Medals Society of America, 58, 6 (November-December 2007): 36-37.Wherein we learn, for example, of the retrospective award in 2000 of "hero" to a brave ginkgo tree which had crashed (is that the right verb?) a US aircraft during the Korean war. Presumably this was a posthumous award? Edited December 12, 2007 by Ed_Haynes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchBoy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I read this article. Trees and machinery getting hero stars...what a country! I can only imagine all those brave horses in the Crimean war receiving their well-earned Victoria Crosses from the hand of the Queen...And in WW1 there was a VERY brave handgranade that should have received a bronze star...I guess they will never receive their due! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Fascinating!How did they bestow an award to the tree - by actually attaching it to the tree itself? I would assume that a Personal File for the heroic tree was also created in military headquarters. They would have to come up with the name for the tree as well... William Edited December 12, 2007 by new world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Can anybody recall if it was in the news recently,about people being sentenced to death for cutting down"Hero Trees" in China or North Korea or was I dreaming??Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Friends,I have a dispute with the seller about Korean order.It looks to me that award in the original picture and the one I received are not the same. One difference is presence of multiple scratches on my award, while original photo shows smooth surface with nice patina.Please let me know if you think it's the same award.Best regards,WilliamPS: pic of original order from the seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Award which arrived in the mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 different angle of my award, note multiple scratches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingqi Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 to new world:it could be the same order. perhaps seller washed the order to make it look nice, which I believe was very stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchBoy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I think it may be a different order. I don't see those scratches on the first photo and the screwplate is definitely different. But the angle of his picture and yours is different so maybe the different glare is doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I would have real doubts that they are the same. The screwpost does look different and, if the same, the scratched one has been "cleaned" to destruction. Just on that basis,. I'd send it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) Gentlemen,Thank you very much for your input! It supports my belief that these are indeed different awards.I' m going to talk to the seller about replacing this award. It's a shame the reverse is all ruined, the award looks perfect on the observe.Best regards,William Edited January 3, 2008 by new world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdun16 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) Left side top to bottom:kind of award, class, no., date awarded, signature of person awardingSecond line: Order of the Flag 2nd Class, #5634, Awarded on 1957.10.31Right side top to bottom:Regulations for awardRegulations for the 1st,2nd and 3rd class of the Order of the FlagPersons who are awarded the Order of the National Flag receive the following;First Class Order:1. They can receive free tickets for train, ship, electric transport(?), and all public vehicles2. Will receive 1200 Won per year3. Upon reaching 55 years old for men or 50 years old for women or lose the ability to work they will receive retirement pay as per regulationsSecond Class Order:1. Will receive 900 Won per year2. They can receive free tickets for train and electric transportation3. Same as #3 for 1st classThird Class Order:1. Will receive 600 Won per year2. They can receive free tickets for electric transportation Edited June 30, 2008 by Verdun16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdun16 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) From post #117Left side:Name of person receiving award247919: Number of the award (i.e. serial number)Right Side:Name: Sausenin Grigory Petrovich (Loose translation. It messed my guy up with it not being a Korean name)Location of Hometown: BlankLocation of awarding: BlankOccupation: Advisor to the Chief of the public hospital system. sorry - here's first pic of insideadmit it... this guy does not look Korean:) Edited June 30, 2008 by Verdun16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdun16 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Left side (Right side is pretty much the same regulations and etc)3. Upon reaching 55 years old for men or 50 years old for women or lose the ability to work they will receive retirement pay as per regulations8. People who receive the first, second and/or third class of the order of the national flag have to obey these obligations9. Be the example for all other people10. You must participate in developing our country's economy and culture11. You must wear your orders and medals whenever you participate in special events12. If a person who was awarded any class of the order goes to prison they are not allowed to wear the order during that time13. If a non-authorized person wears this order they will be fully punished14. Any award of any class of the order can be revoked by the senate house of the PDRK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 great thanks please let your friend know i'm happy to help if he ever needs a translation Dutch-English :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Found this little gen in the tiny plastic issue case, with ribbon bar for a mere $10.00! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Dienna Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 My method of displaying some of my DPRK Orders and Red Flag Company awards: On the Tunic of a DPRK officer. Quite obviously he is young, as a Lieutenant, to have received such an array of awards...except that in north Korea, sons in the military are authorized to wear the awards received by their fathers! (The Hero star is a copy!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Dienna Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 A couple more: The Order of March 5, and the Order of Capital Construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Dienna Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Reverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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