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  1. I don't thing Jeff is talking about a book but about the website that Guy made about the Military Decoration: http://users.telenet.be/deploige/OMD-DM/index.html It's in dutch or french but without knowledge of either language it's easy to figure out. Kind regards, Vincent
  2. I once read an article of André Borné about this medal. It was in French, a language that is not my strong suit, but what I understood was that the medal was not an award but a membership insignia. The form of the medal depends on the period it was given and/or the type of membership. Kind Regards, Vincent
  3. Jemeppe-sur-Meuse Awarded to combatants of the municipality. "Jemeppe S/M [sur-Meuse] in recognition to their combatants 1945" St. Jean-Geest "The Municipality of St. Jean-Geets Gratitude 1940-45" Liège The medal shows the city's gratitude towards their liberators (3th US Armored Divison) in the design of the medal. It shows the head of a G.I. with a laurel wreath on his helmet. To it's side it shows the Perron of Liège (symbol of the city) and the Statue of Liberty (symbol of America). "City of Liège V [Victory] 1940 194
  4. Frameries The date on the medal indicate a commemorative medal to the 50th anniversary of the beginning of the war. Roeselare The date on the medal indicate a commemorative medal to the 50th anniversary of the Armistice. Wetteren Awarded to their combatants. The date on the medal indicate a commemorative medal to the 50th anniversary of the Armistice. Massemen Awarded to the civilians of the municipality who were claimed by the Germans for forced labour.
  5. After the war, many municipalities and cities awarded some medals to honor their combatants or victims of the war. These medals are not official and information about them is scarce. In this topic I show my own collection of them and share the information I have found. Feel free to contribute your own pieces and/or information. Ghent Awarded by the city of Ghent during the "Gentse Feesten" (Eng: The Ghent Festival) of 1920, in presence of members of the royal family, to all WW1 combatants and deported of the city of Ghent. The medal was also awarded to the widows or the rightful
  6. The hierarchy between Belgian medals (with exception of the National Orders) is not very clear. In some decrees that create a medal it is stated in the form of "worn behind the ... medal" of "worn behind all medals created before this decree". I have looked but never found an official list. In my opinion the hierarchy behind the National Orders is more out of custom than regulations. Even if there is a reglation for these medals it is not strictly followed or enforced. Usually you see medals in this order: Belgian National Orders (see link below for their hierarchy) Foreign
  7. Hey Guy, Shouldn't it be the Civil Decoration for Bravery, Devotion and Philantrophy instead of the Civil Decoration for Long Service in the Administration? I only count two black stripes instead of three. Kind Regards, Vincent
  8. Stuka is right. The medal is the Industry and Agricultural Decoration or under it's later name Decoration of Labour (medal is the same only the name changes) and has nothing to do with the army. But on the bright side, it has the name of the maker on it's back (J. Fonson Brussels) wich makes it more uncommon (even rare) to find (even in Belgium). Someone told me this was done in the early 20th century, but I can't verify that. Nevertheless with the discription on the back it's the hardest to find medal in your modest collection . If it hadn't any discription on it's back it's the eas
  9. The bar "Korea-Coree" does not belong on this medal but it is not uncommon that veterans put this sort of bars on their medals. Belgium is not very strict about this things. The "Military Decoration (art. 4)", for gallantry, can only have a chevron (for a first class award) and a palm (for gallantry in war) on it's ribbon. There are four types of Palms: with an "A" (created in 1915) with an "LIIIL" (created in 1941) with an "L", (created in 1952) without any monogram since 1954 The black bar means the recipient fell during combat or died from wounds receiv
  10. Ending with Buls in 2016 and reviving this topic with him (I hope) I bought this knight in the Order of Leopold and believes it it from Ch. Buls (ca. 1845 - 1880s). Unfortunatly I can't decipher the silvermark. I checked it with A. Ruokonen's book "Spirit of the lion" and it seems to match, at least to me, with Charles Buls. I hope someone can verify this or disprove this. Kind Regards, Vincent
  11. Thank you for the reply. @Jef: Indeed ... and I forgot to check it again ... it was probably due that article that I remember something about the field army. Vincent
  12. I was reorganizing my medal collection and found some pieces that I haven't identified or know very little about. Maybe some people here know more about them then I do and are willing to share . Every information is welcome. All of them are (presumed) Belgian and military (or war) related. 1) (mini) I have no clue 2) Came with some sort of membershipcard (last pic), 3) Read somewhere that it is related with the field army (Veldleger) but have no idea which oranisation A.N.V. - N.V.V. is. 4) Oueverture Nationale de Service Social aux Familles de Militaires (O.N.S.S.F.M
  13. Thank you, 922F, for showing. I have one case almost exactly like yours (the dark one) but it has an "O" under the crowned "A". On an other forum (https://www.ablhistoryforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=6331) they stated that it was for an Officer's cross of the Order of Leopold during the reign of King Albert I. My case is definitly switched because I found a Belgian War Cross (1940) in it. Vincent
  14. Thanks to S. Astill (Curator – Military Collections, Exhibitions and Special Projects of the South West Heritage Trust (www.swheritage.org.uk)) who gave me this response: "Somerset became the temporary home to many Belgian refugees fleeing their country following the German attack of August 1914. Committees were set up in towns across the county to raise funds to support the refugee families during their stay. This medal as awarded to people who supported the committee in Taunton through fundraising or other charity work." Vincent
  15. Thanks for the replies. The e-mail is on the way and when I receive a respons I will let you know. Vincent
  16. I recently received this medal but I'm unable to find more information about it. It has a ribbon in the Belgian colors but the design feels British. My best guess is that it is an unofficial medal given to those involved with the aid of Belgians (possibly refugees) in England (Taunton, Somerset?). All information about this medal or this Belgian Committee is welcome. Kind regards,Vincent
  17. The "Carte du Feux" (or Vuurkaart, Firecard) was created by Royal Decree on 14 may 1932 and was awarded to Belgian soldiers who served at least 12 months in an unit that was in contact with the enemy. This time could be reduced to 9 months in certain situations. So to answer your first question: it was created by the Belgian government. The "Golden Book of the Firecard" was first published in 1933 or 1934 and contains the names of those who held the "firecard". It is not complete because the holders must send an application if they wanted to be mentioned in the book. If I'm not mistaken t
  18. 60 years ... that must be a hell of a collection you got. I hope you can find the medal and many other "hidden" or "lost" teasures . Don't feel shy to share the rare or uncommon ones with us . Vincent
  19. @922F You spoke about seeing cased ones in 1994. Do you, by any chance, remember the box it was in. Mine came in a red one with a crown on it (J. Fonson) and I presume this is not the original box but one for the Order of the Crown. But since I haven't seen a cased example of this medal I can't be certain. Vincent
  20. Is this the veteran's medal that you mean? If they did use this it should be easy to recognize. According to an article by Borné it was created by the National Union of Military Veterans of Leopold II (wich was founded in 1947). Vincent
  21. According to Borné this medal was created by King Leopold III by Decree on 10 may 1934, aiming to award those who served Albert I, who died on 17 january 1934. It was awarded to those who served in the royal households of Albert I and/or queen Elisabeth (1909-1934) and/or the households when they were the Count and Countess of Flanders (1905-1909). So it might be possible that they were all awarded during the month may of 1934, since no one could qualify after that date. Unfortunately Borné does not mention it. Vincent
  22. Picture 1 is the front of the medal and the "A" is the revers. (If this is what you mean). I'm very interested in the difference between a copy and a real one (and if possible, the documentation or source of it) since I have the medal in my collection. (see pics) Vincent
  23. The uniform(s) with ribbons ... the medals ... the documents ... and all of the same person Now I'm jealous As for the regulations ... it doesn't suprise me that an officer (or a soldier) doesn't know them. We are medal enthusiasts here and we have trouble knowing what medal comes before an other. And to be honest, I don't think anyone in Belgium really cares (exept us). Most of the Royal Decrees that create a medal that I've seen just state: "The medal comes directly behind ..." or "... comes after all medals already existing". So first you have to find all Royal Decrees and then
  24. I don't think so. The hierarchy should be: National Orders (with their own hierarchy, wich is correct in this picture) Medals of the two World Wars and the Korean War Militray Decoration (article 4) [10th in this picture. It could be that this medal precede also the war medals but I'm not sure.] Military Cross Military Decoration [...] Foreign Medals (in chronological order as they are received) Question to the members of the Belgian Army: Since I haven't served in the Belgian Army I wonder if it is possible to serve at least 10 y
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