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Nice Vince!! Another rare one!
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Wonderful pieces guys!! Keep it coming!
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The Friedrich Order is always appreciated!
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Bummer, sounds like it was fabulous!
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@GMU Beautiful image with some wonderful pieces!
@pinpon590 Nice Hohenzollern set! Had that cased just like yours once upon a time but no mini!
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PS: would love to see images of the Grand Cross of the St. Henry Order if you have any!
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3 hours ago, bolewts58 said:
I've owned cased Grand Cross sets of both the Order of Albert the Brave and St. Henry Military Order and the cases by G.A. Scharffenberg, Dresden were gilt printed and the coat of arms incused. I have never seen any original case even remotely like this. Original cases always had the Scharffenberg name and address printed in the upper lid as well as a green and white Scharffenberg paper label on the bottom together with another white paper label from the ribbon maker C.E. Kunath, Dresden. The same is true of other Saxon makers such as Alfredn Roesner, Glaser u. Sohn, and Mortiz Elimeyer, not to mention other makers of Saxon orders like Godet and Rothe.
So it's odd that whoever is faking these would create something that IMO never existed in history.
Good Morning! I agree with you wholeheartedly on post 1900 cases. I’ve owned a substantial number of Saxon pieces over the years that I’ve collected. The title and seals were incused into the lids. The WW1 era examples I’ve handled were usually red. I’ve seen interior maker marks and paper labels for Scharffenburg but not Roessner, Glaser or Osang. They often had the Kunath label as well. The pre-WW1 cases I’ve handled were often black or green but those often did not have a maker mark although the pieces themselves usually did.
When I first saw the original listing I made the incorrect assumption that the case was circa 1870, or possibly earlier. The original images from the seller it appeared to have some legitimate age to it (see below), maybe he used a filter to mask the real appearance.Bottom line, I made a huge mistake. My concentration right now has been narrowed to almost strictly the St. Henry Order, although Saxon enlisted items are also a huge draw to me. The Albert Order seems to be being massively faked right now. I have yet to see faked Saxon Merit Orders but that’s probably just a question of time until that happens unfortunately. I’ve seen very bad copies of St. Henry RKs but they are easily distinguished from the real ones.
Live and learn people, our hobby has become a minefield.
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Hi Bill, that’s especially nice to see with the case of issue. I’ve always thought the DSC to be a beautiful decoration
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2 hours ago, pinpon590 said:
by the way, do you know when this way of wearint the cross dates back to ?
Detlev said it was authorized in the early 1920’s but I’ve never seen anything written about it, just examples
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That White Falcon is pretty scarce!! An absolutely beautiful award. I’ve only had two over the years.
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Bid on this case in Germany and won. Unfortunately when it arrived it appeared to be brand, spankin’ new! The inside liner of the base isn’t uv reactive but the silk lining of the lid does appear to be. Too good to be true usually is! My subsequent investigation shows these are just starting to creep into the market, possibly being made in England. Having never seen another I thought I was safe but no, it’s a copy. Don’t be like me!
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Now there’s a case you don’t see very often!!
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Yes, I see it now!
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Good Morning All! All I can say is wow!! Beautiful pieces! That 3kl is to die for.! Is it marked for maker?
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Final bid on sub badge was $1387!! Anyone know if it was real?
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Beautiful!! Thanks for sharing!! Another very rare one!
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Very nice with the case!! Rare one!!
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Now that’s a great one and seldom seen. I’ve been fortunate to have been able to inspect a couple of MMJO from a friend’s collection. They are beautiful and quite delicate
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Very nice, looks like real gold?
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I thought this rather fascinating thread was worth a bump up!
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eBay Fakes
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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It’s kind of funny to watch fakes get tons of bids but real items languish. I think people are crazy!