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    Erik Krogh

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    1. Minesweeper plaque. It is 21 cm tall.

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      On 09/03/2019 at 13:34, IJSBEER said:

      The true colors to the "Unterseebootschule", first the postwar one:P2080455.JPG

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      The "orange on blue" arrow is the icon generally associated with U-boat school - and used on its nazi stationary. The lower two plaques are for sale for 2000 euros total so they better have the right color! : )

      Here is a photo from my collection with the U-Schule plaque mounted on the conningtower of a training boat.

      U-Boat Conningtower With U-schule Plaque.jpg

    2. On 20/01/2019 at 14:30, IJSBEER said:

      Erik,

      I think this specific paper folded boat does show the emblem of U-3003/U-3013  (see attached picture). I merely wonder as to what the words "Edit Ihrens" mean. Is it a woman's name? 

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      one week ago I stumbled upon this cap badge, 4 days too late for my personal gain, because it was already sold. It, however, reminded me of the cap badge that dedehansen had once posted in this forum. They look very similar, but this one has a pin on its flipside, 

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      Thanks for the information on the traditions design for U-3003/U-3013! Here is a U-653 plaque I obtained from Funkmeister Kupfermann's estate.

       

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    3. Hi IJSBeer,

      Interesting pin you have there. Not sure if it can be tied back to a U-170 crew member, but possible. As I'm sure you know, it is very difficult to authenticate crew badges unless they come with significant provenance. Some U-boats used commercially-available symbols (e.g. Olympic rings used by U-394, 407, 426...) and militaria dealers often charge premium prices for such olympic pins claiming them as U-boat traditions badges even though there is no evidence that these were used on a boat. The "ski bunny" motif similar to your pin and used by U-170 was available commercially: I have posted an image in the form of a charm.

      The U-170 traditions badge I posted came from Detlev Niemann with his guarantee of authenticity. I also have another GoA for Niemann for 2 U-170 crew badges. I do not own the shield, but I did purchase the 10 U-Flotille pin from the owner of the shield. These are posted here. You should also refer to page 79 of Gordon Williamson's book "Torpedo los!" for another version of the ski bunny from Michel's amazing collection.

       

       

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    4. Traditions badge for the 24th U-Flotilla and U-748 (ex Italian S5). Just picked this up at the SOS in Louisville KY over the weekend. No provenance except for the story: the seller is an old-time collector from Chicago who used to hang around with Hans Goebler (U-505). Purportedly this badge came from one of Hans' friends. Not much to go on, but the construction looks reasonably period so I took a chance.

    5. Hello Peter,

      Well, you've picked a tough one to confirm as pre-45. There does not appear to be a consensus regarding the specific characteristics of a Third Reich original, as the same design was used post-45 in the Bundesmarine. The conventional wisdom on these is to let the badge's finish guide your originality opinion. Since both of the badges that you have posted appear to have a vintage look, you could probably choose either of them. In this case, originality is in the eye of the beholder. :banger:

      For what it's worth, here is a scan of my badge, which resembles the second type that you have posted.

      Erik

    6. That is a great set and the July 1944 full length photo is fantastic. I'm not sure I would describe the award entries in the Soldbuch as 'only' though as the HK entry is a desireable entry :)

      Does the soldbuch have a photo in it?

      Thanks everyone for your kind words regarding this grouping. I will post more at a later date - on the way to China now, so will be incommunicado for a few days.

      Hucks,

      The reason I used the qualifier "only" for Nehm's awards is because his destroyer badge is not entered. You are absolutely right - the EKII and HK awards were something that I'm sure that Herr Nehm was proud of. No, there is no photo in the Soldbuch, unfortunately.

      Best Regards,

      Erik

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