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  1. Hello. In other words, it was not Komtur's words we were supposed to take seriously, but the smiley-face at the end of his post. Damn these modern-day Germans and their polite sarcasm. I miss the old days, when the Germans communicated their messages clearly and unambiguously... you know, like the message they sent to Poland on September 1, 1939. (Smiley Face LOL) Regards.
  2. The website you mention is highly informative and extremely useful, but as Sascha Wöschler and others have previously pointed out, it sometimes contains errors and often has incomplete information. When I want to understand details about a decoration with award criteria as complex as the Red Eagle, I go right to the source... the complete statutes of the order itself with all the relevant amendments... https://ordensmuseum.de/Ordensstatuten/preusen/roter-adler-orden/ However, I was trying to focus on the physical details of the cross itself presented in the first post.
  3. Hello. It is my understanding that oak leaves for the 2nd class were meant to signify the exact same cross awarded a second time. In other words, an RAO2 followed by another RAO2, or an RAO2X followed by another RAO2X. Regards.
  4. @Komtur Please help us better understand what we are looking at. You theorize that the recipient of the cross was around 80 years of age and had the rank of major general or higher. He earned a bravery decoration in a war and then earned another bravery decoration in a subsequent war... hence the two sets of swords. I'm trying to connect all the dots in my head. Is the following an accurate, expanded interpretation of your post... 1.) The recipient earned an RAO3X. 2.) Subsequently, he earned an RAO2 in peacetime but was also entitled to Swords On The
  5. Hello. I had a chance to catch-up on reading new threads in the forum and I came across two magnificent bars belonging to Georg Veit that need to be shown in this thread since they fit the subject so well.. I hope the owners of these bars don't mind the images of their bars being posted here. So here they are... the bars of Oberst Georg Veit together. Regards.
  6. Hello. What a fabulous Saxon combat bar! The entry from the postwar Reichsheer rank-list you show lists only the major's combat decorations which matches his combat bar 100%. Do you know what his complete set of decorations were? Thanks very much for showing this beautiful condensed combat bar. It's another great example for this thread! Just a side-note. Anybody who has acquired a set of the Rangliste des Deutschen Reichsheeres 1924-32 eventually realizes that only combat decorations are listed. No peacetime awards are mentioned which can sometimes lead to confusion when t
  7. Hello. This is a perfect example of not just one, but TWO combat bars assembled entirely from v. Conrady's wartime awards. When he acquired two more wartime awards, his 3-place combat bar evolved into a 5-place bar. The fact that all three bars are still together after one century is absolutely astonishing! I hope you don't mind... I posted your photo of this fabulous set one more time because it so perfectly illutrates the subject of this thread. I am very much looking forward to seeing other examples you might have in your collection, and I am certain many other members of
  8. Hello. I think you stand a better chance of a reply if you post better pictures. The ones you posted are small and photographed in low-resolution. You actually chopped-off half of the of the hinge in one of the pictures. Here is what your pictures need to look like for somebody to provide a proper evaluation. (That goes for your CCC, too.) Regards.
  9. @laurentius : Thank you kindly for your interpretation of the bar and its owner. Your theory that the absence of lower-ranked orders from Wuerttemberg suggests that they were worn as neck-orders makes a great deal of sense. Also, I wasn't sure what the owner's rank might be due to my very limited knowledge about the award criteria for the Crown Order. Thank you very much for your insights. @Deruelle : Fantastic information, Christophe. Thank you very much for taking the time to research the rank-lists. I am in agreement with you that the award-combination allows for reasonable
  10. Hello. Here is a bar from my collection that I am almost reluctant to post in this thread. It is a short bar with only 5 awards. The question is: Does the bar belong to an officer with most of his awards pinned to his tunic and hanging from his neck? Or is it one of those bars with a limited assortment of his decorations? perhaps just a representation of his favorite combat awards? Or is it simply a regular bar? Regards.
  11. Hello. I think you make a very good point. The Officers we talk about in this thread used these abreviated bars to make a statement or to project an image. Christophe mentioned officers who wore only their wartime awards because for a true warrior, they were the "real" awards. You talk about the Duke of Brunswick who also wanted to make a very specific statement by purposely wearing the newly instituted BrH4. I have a theory about Ludendorff's short ribbon bar. In many pictures he is seen with his long ribbon bar. So he was not shy about showing-off his awards. In several
  12. Hello. That is exactly what it is... a ribbon for the Verdienstkreuz fuer Kriegshilfe. I'm sure some people are wondering why a highly decorated officer such as Ludendorff would choose to wear this particular ribbon in his button hole. Kaiser Wilhelm II established this award on 5 December 1916 and personally pinned these crosses on only 3 people: His wife the Kaiserin, Hindenburg, and Ludendorff. So I'm sure that is why Ludendorrf regarded this ribbon as special enough to wear in his button hole. Regards.
  13. Hello. That's a beautiful bar. That's the kind of bar that starts the wheels turning inside a person's head. He was obviously a Bavarian with 15 years of Bavarian military service but he didn't receive a single Bavarian combat award during WW1. So there are several possible scenarios for the owner of this bar, not the least of which is that he did not fight as a Bavarian during the war (as strange as that sounds.) Regards.
  14. @Komtur and @Deruelle : the photos you've posted are excellent examples of selectively limiting awards on ribbon-bars. I must admit, I have never seen the portrait of Prince Heinrich in a naval uniform wearing a ribbon bar. And Oberst Suessmilch was making a strong statement by wearing only his Saxon combat awards and EKs. By the way, his long ribbon-bar is extraordinary! @Deruelle : thank you for posting v. Soden's long bar. I would kill to have that bar in my collection displayed next to his combat bar. Probably one of the best known examples of a ribbon-bar w
  15. Here's another ribbon-bar from my collection that falls into the category of a limited assortment of decorations. It belonged to Generalmajor Hans Kannengiesser, commander of the 9th Ottoman Division. Note his medal-bar (not mine, unfortunately) in contrast to his ribbon-bar. He selected only his Kriegsauszeichnungen to wear on his battlefield tunic. Both bars came from George Seymour's collection when they were sold at auction on behalf of his estate. Regards.
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