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Dave Wilkinson

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  1. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you refer to the security services. The term security services usually mean MI5 or MI6. I'm fairly confident that they would have no connection with the prison service. In many (but not all) British Colonies, the Prison Service often came under the management of the Commissioner/Chief of Police. Insofar as Cyprus is concerned I can confirm that the police and the prison service each had their own distinctive cap and collar badges. That was also the case in Palestine, where I can confirm that the Commissioner of Police did command both organisations. In all probability that was also the case in Cyprus. Dave.
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    Forgive my asking but what is "SEROD"?
  3. I've never seen a Royal Mint produced medal with rounded edges, or with such "naff" engraving. Looks like a child has done it. In addition, I'm fairly certain that the title "Inspector of Police" would not be used on an SC medal. If the medal itself is genuine, which is a possibility, its been seriously interfered with. The edge and rim looks as if its spent some time on a grinding wheel. Dave.
  4. You have to bear in mind that there is no National policy in respect of what type of weapon is carried. An "Asp" was the only type of baton issued in my last force. It may be a PSU item in your force but not in others. Each Chief Constable is at liberty to authorise whatever type he considers appropriate. Dave.
  5. I've no doubt a Metpol. officer will correct me, but I think they have a choice of long straight baton, metal "Asp" baton or a PR24. The traditional wooden truncheon was discontinued at various points in time depending on the force. Each force makes its own decision with regard to the weapon used. Dave.
  6. Hi Lawrence, Newport had 260 men when it amalgamated in 1967. So, I suspect they would probably have had half that number during the period the badges were worn. The wreath badge was used on both helmet & cap. The smaller wreath is an epaulette badge. Welsh police badges usually command some good interest. I don't think you will have any difficulty in finding a new owner. Hope you and the family are well. Dave.
  7. I'm puzzled! This is a piece of military equipment and has nothing whatsoever to do with policing - let alone British policing. Incidentally, what is a "perp"? Oh, do you mean an offender? Dave.
  8. Not unusual. As others have said, a military trench stick. 1stWW. In the late 1950's I recall my paternal Grandmother having one of these. She kept it in the small cupboard (containing the electricity meter) adjacent to he front door of her large Victorian house in the Wavertree area of Liverpool. Haven't a clue what happened to it. Dave.
  9. The badge is not a UK municipal Coat of Arms, or part of a municipal Coat of Arms that I recognise. It could be a design used on a local town "seal" or similar. To reiterate my earlier theory, I believe he is a civilian bandmaster of some sort. Dave.
  10. I don't think its a military guy. My theory is that he is a bandmaster of a Town Band or similar. Dave.
  11. I was an English bobby for thirty-five years and served in four different police forces. During my service I saw no evidence of "weighted" truncheons being used, officially or otherwise. The first part of my service was in a very turbulent and often violent city. That said, truncheons were seldom drawn let alone used. So, (like it or not) I support what delibob says. I'm perhaps fortunate that I don't live in Canada! Dave.
  12. I think the smallest (in Wales) was Carmarthen Borough Police with 17 men. They amalgamated with their County in 1944. For the greater part of their existence they had only 12 men and were known as the "Carmarthen Shilling" (12 Coppers). Dave.
  13. You have to remember that in 1951, when the PLS&GC medal was introduced, all those who had 22 years service with unblemished conduct would have been in the frame to get the medal. That would have included all the CC's and their (very few) non-Home Office equals. Since then there would have been further awards. However, those small non-HO forces which existed in Wales have long since disappeared, well before Welsh naming became the norm. I would think that the number of Welsh rank named medals would be (by this time) many hundreds. However, I take your point. As an aside, isn't it interesting that the rank abbreviations on the PLS&GC medal are never shown as "PC", "PS" or "PI" ?
  14. I doubt it. The rarest examples of PLS&GC medals will be those showing Chief Officer (Ch.Offr..) rank. A number of the non-Home Office forces were headed by a Chief Officer (as opposed to Chief Constable). The number of medals issued bearing that rank would be very few. Possibly no more than a dozen or so. Dave.
  15. At the time of amalgamation on 31st March 1947 they had 45 men. Dave.
  16. Unfortunately, the use of the Royal Crown, has in recent years, been portrayed increasingly on "fashion" items and its use in that respect is not unusual. Dave.
  17. Very nice Dave. I'll have to pop around for a brew! You'll have to get a decent enamelled plate for that current Met. helmet. Those cold enamel (plastic) blue rings look so cheap and nasty. Alas, a sign of the times! Dave.
  18. Unfortunately, there is no easy way of telling. White metal (German silver) which is what these numbers appear to be made of, was used up until the mid-1930's when the same design etc was chrome plated. Dave.
  19. Possibly, but the screw fasteners were also used during the Vic. period. Dave.
  20. Does anyone have copies of the almanacs mentioned? If so, would they kindly scan the entry for Eastbourne Police (shown under Sussex (East)) and let me see it? Thanks in advance. Dave.
  21. They are still used currently by some forces that use collar badges. The height of their popularity was probably the 60's & 70's. Dave.
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