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  1. On 01/01/2021 at 18:36, webr55 said:

    I don't think we have him yet: Lt dR J. P. Jensen:


    From Hamburgischer Correspondent und neue hamburgische Börsen-Halle. 5.6.1918


    some more details to Jensen:



    Award date 2nd May 1918


    On 06/01/2021 at 12:26, webr55 said:

    This might also be a new one: Lt W. Heck from Groß Czyste. 

    From Die Presse, 3.7.1918 


    Is it the same Heck??


    Award date of 4th September 1918 does not match with the date of "Die Presse, 3.7.1918"


    Kind regards

  2. On 03/02/2009 at 21:53, Daniel Krause said:

    There is just one possible Heinemann,

    no first name, no unit

    Reserve Captain


    HOH3X published in the Staatsanzeiger 27.07.18 / Milit?rwochenblatt 24.08.18


    Might that be the right one?

    What do You know about him?

    Maybe a pic?


    Best regards



    Hello Daniel,


    here are some more details for Hptm Heinemann



    Award date was the 7th July 1918.


    Kind regards

    On 16/01/2021 at 19:58, Glenn J said:

    Oberzollkontrolleur Ernst Wölle was an Hauptmann d.L.a.D. serving with RIR 18 when awarded the HOH3X.



    Should it be him?



    Award date was 18th July 1918

    Kind regards

    On 15/01/2021 at 11:21, webr55 said:

    A first name: Lt dR Karl Wendland

    From Kölner Local-Anzeiger, 3.10.1918


    Should be him:




    Award date 4th September 1918


    Kind regards

  3. Hello,


    I think here´s another example for black ribboned EK for service on the homefront but in this case for a marine-guy.

    Marine-Oberingenieur der Seewehr II. Otto

    He was member of "Schiffsbesichtigungskommission Hamburg" and he received the black ribboned EK and "Hamburger Hanseatenkreuz" in December 1915. Finally the department celebrated the receipt of both awards for Marine-Oberingenieur Otto at the end of December, which was called "Ordensfest". It exist also one document which is connected to that celebration.

    There is mentioned in a lyrical notion for what Otto received both awards:

    "Hgb(= Hamburg) 28.12.1915

    Hier mit meiner Schuppen-Horde. Schweißgebadet bei der Arbeit, Als mit Hebel, Krahn und Balken, Wir die 100000 Dinge die im kunterbuten Wirwar Man uns in den Schoß geworfen Sehr korrekt zur Ordnung brachten"

    We can translate that lyrical parts that he was responsible for some gaffs. His principal duty was to handling one hundred thousands things (I think military goods) and to put them in order!

    For that duty Marine-Oberingenieur der Seewehr II. Otto received the black ribboned EK and "Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg"


    So in my opion another nice example for black ribboned EK for service on the homefront 🙂


    In case of the department "Schiffsbesichtigungskommission" I found below informations:


    "Bei der Mobilmachung ergänzte sich die Schiffsbesichtigungskommission durch einen Stab von Offizieren des Beurlaubtenstandes der Marine, die in den verschiedenen Häfen als Requisitionsoffiziere, Ausrüstungsleiter, Bemannungsleiter und Transportleiter die Ausrüstung und Bemannung der Hilfsschiffe nach den dafür gegebenen Vorschriften durchführten. Technische Mitglieder der Kommission prüften die Betriebsfähigkeit der Maschinenanlagen und Sicherheitsvorrichtungen, überwachten die technischen Einrichtungsarbeiten und sorgten für das Vorhandensein der erforderlichen Betriebsmaterialien. Sanitätsoffiziere und Verwaltungsbeamte richteten den Lazarett- und Verwaltungsdienst ein."

    "In the mobilization, the Ship Inspection Commission was supplemented by a staff of officers from the Navy's leave of absence, who carried out the equipment and manning of the auxiliary vessels in the various ports as requisition officers, equipment managers, crew managers and transport managers in accordance with the regulations. Technical members of the Commission checked the operational capability of the machinery and safety equipment, supervised the technical equipment work and ensured the presence of the necessary operating materials. Paramedics and administrative officers set up the hospital and administrative service."











    In 1918 Marine-Oberingenieur der Seewehr II receveid the "FAK2" for combatants! Otto was all the time member of SBK and technical member of shipbuilding in E (Emden?) according to "Ehrenrangliste der Kaiserlichen Deutschen Marine 1914-1918". It seems that he never had left Germany during the wartime.


    Best regards














  4. Right👍

    As Rick used to say:

    -- but as ALWAYS in these cases, please anybody else do NOT post original wearer's name identification for any item up for sale while it is still for sale:


    not only is that free/unearned data FOR some unknown seller's sole gain, but largely a waste of time for items which vanish into the Great Unknown anyway and are NOT brought home by Faithful Readers here.






  5. Hello👋

    Ooh I didn't know it😯😯 Sorry to hear that☹️ But I think you have no problems with your "title"?

    But isn't it typical for chinese culture to copy things without permission🤔

    Take it easy it was my fault. I don't post anything anymore. 

    So let's laugh about it and everything is forgotten😎👌

    Have a nice week and regards




  6. 8 hours ago, saschaw said:

    According to Mike Estelmann, Die Modellumstellung des Roten Adler Ordens der 4. Klasse von glatte auf gekörnte Kreuzarme – Eine offene Frage findet ihre Beantwortung, published in German DGO magazine Orden und Ehrenzeichen, vol. 83 from February 2013, the change from smooth to pebbled cross arms was in 1885. Other than Mr. Nimmergut and most other German experts, who just estimated their "1879", Mike went through the effort of looking at the actual archive files.

    Hello Sascha, 

    maybe we can date the change from smooth to pebbled cross arms after may 1885

    It seems that red eagle order 4th class with swords with smooth cross arms was also awarded in May 1885

    Kind regards 


  7. Hi Andy,


    Erwin Immanuel Fischer was born 26th October 1866 in Smazin, Kreis Neustadt (West-Prussia). He married Clara Toni Hirschborn on 21st November 1903 (born: 15th April 1884)


    divorce from his wife Clara on 22nd July 1918

    He received his bavarian citizenship on 4th January 1919

    He died on 5th Ocotber1938







  8. Hello all,

    thanks a lot for your great research Andy.


    He's mentioned as Oberstleutnant a.D. on his gravestone. So he was never Oberst.

    It seems that he has also lost his prussian citizenship. He received a bavarian citizenship at the beginning of 1919.

    He married a second time but finally he was destitute.

    I will take further research. But now I have an evidence. Thanks to Andy =)

    Thanks a lot and Best regards 





  9. Hello all,

    I need research-help for Oberstleutnant Erwin Immanuel Fischer (Patent Oberstlt. with 27th January 1914)

    In 1914 he served in 3. Großherzogl. Hessisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 168

    I have the following informations according to his award documents:

    till Ocotober 1914: Chef des Generalstabes des Gouvernements der Festung Metz

    till December 1915: Chef des Generalstabes der Armee-Abteilung von Strantz

    He held this position till december 1915 and was replaced by Wilhelm Wild


    I have no further informations for his service in WW1. I hope someone, especially Glenn J and arb, can assist.

    What was his last rank? Where did he served after december 1915?

    I couldn´t find him in Ehrenrangliste des Herres 1914-1918:o:o


    Thanks and best regards



  10. 3 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

    That is interesting! I assume they could simply not be worn together.

    I read that only one MVO/MVK could be worn, but Ritter von Epp seems to wear half a dozen at the same time!

    Hi all, 


    it was allowed to wear different classes at the same time when they were awarded for different wars. vEpp received his MVOs for service in China, Southwestafrica and WW1.


    Best wishes



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