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Hi Archie, Just found these black and white pictures. LP Star for Merit or LP Star for Faithful Service sample ?? - different suspender.- without the word SILVER on back. Regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, This is the best I could do. Regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Again great stuff with many thanks. Have the following 3 medals in my collection. Silver-Gilt. Silver (?) Bronze All 3 with different suspender, any idea - first strikes, prototypes, fakes ?? (All with wrong ribbon). Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Concerning the Bophuthatswana State President's Medal for Shooting. I would guess that the second picture with the is the one chosen. The other 3 have those rings that look like the ones used by the German Car manufacturer Audi. I don't think they could have gotten away with that 😁 Regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, I've this info = [As authorised] [As issued] [3rd. type] Faithful Service Medal (1987-94) For 10 years devoted service. Other versions While only one medal is officially documented as an award for ten years service in the Transkei Defence Force, two versions are known to exist, the one in silver, as presented to recipients of the medal, and also another in bronze. It is possible that the bronze versions are proof specimens which were never officially accepted or presented, but it is equally possible that an as yet undiscovered third silver-gilt medal also exists. The same official documentation lists long service medals for the Transkei Police and Transkei Prisons for 10, 18, 20, 30 (two versions each) and 35 years service. Since no warrants have yet been traced for several decorations and medals which are known to have been instituted and likely also awarded in Transkei, and since it is unlikely that only the one long service award exists for the Transkei Defence Force while so many exist for the Transkei Police and Transkei Prisons, it can be surmised that, of the two known existing versions of this medal, the bronze was actually intended to recognise ten years faithful service and the silver, twenty years. ++++++++++++++++++ Full Size Transkei Faithful Service ( Stamped Silver ) - note small square with the word silver above where the two sides of the wreath join. This one is different (lettering size) than your silver one. Regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, As requested. Kind regards, Marcon1. If you need sharper pictures than I will have to polish it - something I'm not keen on doing.

Hi Archie and Megan, Megan, you are free to use any of my pictures. Many years ago I send you a lot of pictures of GB and you have my name in the acknowledgement list there (2nd. name). Archie, the pictures you have of the Transkei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (20 years) - Silver is of the medal I have now in my collection. I bought it from BidorBuy (BoBshop) for R 1130 (includes postage). Regards, Marcon1.

TPS Medal for Faithful Service: Bronze (1982-87) (c1982-1987) For 18 years service. See also Transkei police for some pictures. Regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Are these of any use ? TP Faithful Service Medal (30 years) Regards, Marcon1. TP Medal for Faithful Service: Bronze (1976-85) (1975-1986) For 18 years service.

Hi Archie, Interesting to see that the one with the green enamel has a different year - 1987 instead of 1986. Mistake by the manufacturer or issued to commemorate 1 year of establishment or perhaps a second minting of the medal ?? As to the rules of GMIC, you are doing fine mate. Your 10, 20 and 30 year medals are different than the ones I have pictures of. note the different front and back (reversed on yours). Silver version (20 years) different suspenders. Also note the different front and back (reversed on yours and bronze). Bronze version (10 years) - note the different front and back (reversed on yours and silver). I will add your picture to my picture file, again with thanks. Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Again thank you for the pictures. One tiny remark, your picture of Bophuthatswana Prison Service Medal for Faithful Service (Silver) for 20 Years Service is the same as the (gold) 30 years version. You can see the same dots and marks on both versions. I'm so used to look for small differences on medals that I could not help but noticing 😉 Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Are these of any help ? Distinguished Service Decoration - short tusks variety. Police Establishment medal - type 1 dark brown variety. Police Force Medal for Loyal Service Police Force medal for Faithful Service It's not much, but every bit helps. If you can use them, feel free to do so. Regards, Marcon1.

Have you ever thought about starting a museum, you have more than enough material for that !! 😄

Hi Archie, A few my own, the rest just pictures i gathered through the years for my own information. I wish I had them, but it's almost impossible to buy them these days at normal prices. Ebay is way to expensive - both in prices and postage. I used to buy a lot of SA medals (Incl. homelands and SWA) on BidorBuy (BoBshop) but most sellers these days will not send items through SAPO International Mail (which always took 3 to 3,5 months to arrive in The Netherlands - talk about snail mail !!) and SAPO is now bankrupt and having the medals send by courier is to expensive. You buy a medal for R150 and you have to pay R500+ for shipment - that is more than they are worth. And if that is not annoying enough, EU rules changed last year on small parcels being send from outside the EU and PostNL (because of customs) will now intercept all parcels and ask for declaration of contains (value) so that they can get money out of me = 21% of the value (tax) + a handling fee. Which makes it even more expensive. So my collecting is on a hold right now. Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Here a few pictures of Venda Police medal variations you may not know of. (Note: Diff. position suspender - long and short tusks). (Note: Diff. position suspender - long and short tusks). Two full-size, Venda Police Establishment medals - type 1 and 2 with a corresponding miniature (no ribbon). MERITORIOUS SERVICE LOYAL SERVICE FAITHFUL SERVICE LOYAL SERVICE LOYAL SERVICE FAITHFUL SERVICE Two full-size, Venda Police Medals for Faithful Service =type 1 and 2, with corresponding miniature (NOTE: DIFF. SUSPENDER !!) Kind regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, Again, wow !!!! Question though - 3rd. picture of KwaZulu Police Star for Distinguished Service and KwaZulu Police Star for Outstanding Service = are those breast stars or something else ?? With thanks, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, These are completely new to me. I didn't know that they had intelligence in Bophuthatswana (Service I mean, not that they were idiots). I only know of Defence Force, Police, Prisons Service and Civil awards. Were these ever issued ?? They are not on the 2005 consolidated table of precedence list. What about Ciskei, Transkei and Venda (the other 3 big ones) - do they also have Intelligence Service medals ?? Can't wait to get a copy of your upcoming book and see what else is in there. Many, many thanks. Marcon1.

Thanks Archie, keep the pictures coming - great stuff. Much appreciated. Marcon1.

Small part he says - understatement of the year 😁

10 minutes to midnight here to, but sunday tomorrow 😁

Hi Archie, I just realized that I do not know what is what with Ciskei Prison medals. Ciskei Prisons Service Gallantry Cross (PGC) (1988-94) - picture 9 Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Excellence (PSE) (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 6 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Distinction (PSD) (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 7 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Merit (PSM) (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 8 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Merit (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 4 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Commendation Medal (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 5 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 30 years service. - picture 1 Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 20 years service. - picture 2 Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 10 years service. - picture 3 Did I identify them correctly ? Regards, Marcon1.

Hi Archie, First picture - full size or miniature ? - if full size, damn I just turned green (of jealousy 👽). Did notice you have several medals double in the display - are there differences between them ? (for example: 2nd. row SA 2015 Centenary medal). If willing to share pictures you should also contact Megan (Medals of the World) - I'm sure she will be very happy to use them on her website. As for pictures for myself - see below list (just a few 😉) Bophuthatswana Police Decoration for Distinguished Service. (TK) (1992-95) Bophuthatswana Prison Decoration for Merit in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96) Bophuthatswana Prison Decoration for Valour in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96) Bophuthatswana Prison Medal for Valour in the BPS (1984-1994) Bophuthatswana Prison Medal for Merit in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96) Bophuthatswana Defence Force Medal for Distinguished Gallantry (1982-94) Bophuthatswana Defence Force State President's Medal (1990-1994) Ciskei Police Order of Ntaba kaNdoda (NKN) (1981-1995/1981-1994) Ciskei Police CP Star (Cross) for Distinguished Leadership (SPDE) (1981-1995) Ciskei Police CP Star for Distinguished Service (SPME) (1981-1995/1981-1994) Ciskei Defence Force Pro Merito Medal (PMM) Ciskei Defence Force CDF Long Service Medal (1988-1994) – 20 years Ciskei Prisons Service Gallantry Cross (PGC) (1988-94) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Excellence (PSE) (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Distinction (PSD) (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Merit (PSM) (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Merit (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Commendation Medal (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 30 years service. Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 20 years service. Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 10 years service. KwaNdebele Police KNP Gallantry Cross (Gold) KwaNdebele Police KNP Gallantry Cross (Silver) KwaNdebele Police KNP Order for Distinguished Leadership (1987-1995) KwaNdebele Police KNP Medal for Distinguished Silver (1987-1995) KwaNdebele Police Commendation Medal Kwazulu Police KZP Star for Distinguished Leadership (SED) (c1982-1995) Kwazulu Police King's Cross for Bravery (c1982-1995) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star of Excellence (SPA) (1990-94/1991-96) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Cross for Gallantry (CPV ??) (1990-94/1990-1996) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star for Distinction (SPO) (1990-94/1990-1996) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star for Merit – Officers (SPM) (1990-94/1990-1996) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Medal for Faithful Service: 30 Years (1990-94/1990-1996) Lebowa Police LP Cross for Gallantry (1990-1995) Lebowa Police LP Star for Distinguished Leadership (1990-1995) Lebowa Police LP Star for Outstanding Service (1990-1995) Lebowa Police LP Establishment Medal (c1990) Transkei Police TP Decoration for Distinguished Service (c1985-1995) Transkei Police TP Cross for Bravery (CT) (1975-c1986) Transkei Police TP Gallantry Cross (c1985-1995) Transkei Police TP Medal for Combating Terrorism (c1985-1994) Transkei Police TP Faithful Service Medal (35 Years) (1985-94) (c1985-1995) Transkei Police TP Medal for Faithful Service: Silver (1976-85) (1975-1985) - 30 years service. Transkei Police TP Faithful Service Medal (20 years) (1985-94) (c1986-1995) Transkei Prison Service TPS Star for Excellence (c1988-1996) Transkei Prison Service TPS Gallantry Cross (c1988-1996) Transkei Prison Service TPS Star for Distinction (c1988-1996) Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94) (c1988-1996) - 35 years Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service: Silver (1982-87) (c1982-1987) For 30 years service. Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (30 Years) (1988-94) (c1988-1996) For 30 years service. Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (20 Years) (1988-94) (c1988-1996) For 20 years service. Venda National Force VNF Gallantry Cross (PCF) (1985) (1979-1985) - gold Venda National Force VNF Gallantry Cross (PCF) (1985) (1979-1985) - silver Venda Police VP Distinguished Service Medal Venda Police VP Outstanding Service Medal Venda Prisons Service VPS Gallantry Cross (CPV) – Gold (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Gallantry Cross (CPF) - Silver (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Distinguished Service Medal: Gold (SPO) (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Distinguished Service Medal: Silver (SPM) (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Long Service Medal: Gold (1985-1996) - 30 years faithful service. Venda Prisons Service VPS Long Service Medal: Silver (1985-1996)-20 years faithful service. Any pictures (front & back / obverse & reverse) would be welcome. Also any information on the ribbons of the Prison medals (very hard to find). With many thanks. Marcon1.

Hiya, Quick name search on google – found this on German Ahnenforschung.net From: Gabriele Irvine Suche nach Albert Schlupp in Ostpreussen. Seine Frau hiess Anna Voss. Sie hatten 4 kinder, 3 Soehne und eine Tochter. Meine Vater ist einer der Soehne, er ist im April 1924 in Ditthausen geboren. Jeder Hilfe waere hilfreich. Danke. Search for Albert Schlupp in East Prussia. His wife's name was Anna Voss. They had 4 children, 3 sons and a daughter. My father is one of the sons, he was born in Ditthausen in April 1924. Any help would be helpful. Thanks. A later reply from another user had this information. Name:Albert Gustav Schlupp Alter zur Zeit der Heirat:22 Geburtsdatum:1901 Heiratsdatum:26.Mai.1923 Heiratsort deutsch Wilten OstPreussen Deutschland Ehepartner:Anna Auguste Voss Evangelische Kirche Deutsch Wilten (Kr. Friedland) Zwei Söhne: Otto Schlupp, Fritz Gustav Schlupp Name:Albert Gustav Schlupp Age at time of marriage: 22 Date of birth: 1901 Date of marriage: May 26, 1923 Marriage place German Wilten East Prussia Germany Spouse:Anna Auguste Voss Evangelical Church German Wilten (Kr. Friedland) Two sons: Otto Schlupp, Fritz Gustav Schlupp Not much, but I hope it is of some use. Kind regards, Marcon1.