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spolei

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  1. There are third classes of Hemmerle and Leser, two manufacturer. Weiss has not delivered any third classes to the bavarian "Ordenskanzlei". Thats right and the weight of the 3. class is lighter. Thats a often seen fake. For a counterfeiter an easy game with a high profit.
  2. I have a picture, but I can not share it. So I tried to paint the system of attachment. The flames were put through the medallion ring and pinned inside. The flames are worked hollow inside, therefore the crosses of the third classes are lighter.
  3. Hello, the first class is a cross of the manufacturer Weiss&Co, the swords are from Leser. This cross is a bad fake., originally a third class. The MVO is a Hemmerle. The backside medaillon seems new enameled. Normaly the lion had to be seperate and not in the enamel. I think this is a recycled MVO.
  4. This crosses were be offered since 1917 by W. Godet & Sons, Berlin. Here a MVO with the same swords.
  5. That's right. These crosses were made for the production of medal bars. In this case from the manufacturer Godet. They were not awardet. The price is equal as the lent.
  6. Very nice Hemmerle, production 1914/1915. he third class is the latest version of Leser.
  7. This looks quite good. Leser 1913 second type. here three types of the Leser cross (left first, middle second and right third Type) The third type was also produced with silver guilt medaillons.
  8. Manufacturer was Deschler. Swords without the "D" marking, but it doesn't matter. Not all Deschler-swords were marked.
  9. Nice Hemmerle 2nd class with markings GH on the agraffe and on the swords. On the swords the 900 was ground, since they are silvered from non-ferrous metal and not from real silver. Hemmerle MVO2.bmp
  10. Sorry, but that's a fake. The cross is from the manufacturer Weiss, the swords from Leser. Weiss didn't produce this class. This would be a third class new enameled and guilt.
  11. You are right. 75 medals were made of gold, 11 medals were produced in silver guilt. The medal was awarded by Prinzregent luitpold on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of his membership in the Order of Saint George on 15th dec 1889. Only the members, who take part at this jubilee, were be awarded.
  12. The awarded medals were made of gold, not silver guilt. It is a very rare medal and the most offers are copys.
  13. Thank you for this posting. In a legacy of a Bavarian bravery medalist was also a cross of this club. The soldier was at a Pioneer unit. What is the difference between he silver cross and the blue enameled cross?
  14. I think it was done from the owner after WW2. There are the third Reich medals missing like the airforce servicemedals, hungary warmedal and Sudetenland Anschlussmedaille. There is no ribbon of the KVK II. In WWII the owner wears the ribbon of the KVK in the buttonhole and the ribbon bar in this way. After the war he sew his decorations on the ribbonbar for veterans meetings.
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