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Deelibob

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  1. I have recently acquired an 1897 jubilee medal issued to Police Constable James McQueen " CO" Division, recourse to The book Metropolitan Police the Men and their medals reveals James entitlement to the 1897 medal in the above stated Division but also that he is warrant number 83079 but was formerly 40396, With this in mind I ask if anyone can confirm if James received a medal for 1887 and if so is the issue of an 1897 instead of a bar in error unique or did it as I suspect a common error due to the logistic nightmare of such large numbers of returning Pensioners. I would be most gratefu
  2. Circa 1825 the Liverpool Town was policed by a rather rag tag outfit going under the loose title of the Liverpool Town and Liverpool Dock Police. By the mid century the crime on the river was becoming out of control and also the movement of gunpowder and other explosives on the river need to be Policed. In 1865 the Chief Constable got the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company to agree to fund a River Police. The Force was to be funded by the Dock Company but the officers were to be sworn in as Liverpool Borough Constables and administered by the Liverpool Borough Force Chief Constable. The R
  3. Stuart McLoughlin was a Wallasey lad who is buried close to my home. He was killed in Action 38 years ago today. He is commemorated with a CWGC headstone in Rake Lane cemetery and a tablet at the Wallasey war memorial on the Waterfront at New Brighton(Attached) There has been a campaign to have Stuart awarded a VC for which I believe he was originally considered. I have seen a Female on Remembrance Sundays wearing a Northern Ireland CSM, South Atlantic and Elizabeth Cross and assume them to be Stuarts relatives.
  4. Hi Norman, A number of Police Forces wore a crown on the epaulette including Wallasey Borough, attached a photograph of Sgt 12 Michael McDonough ( Later a Superintendent and Deputy Ch. Constable of Wallasey) He sports his Sgts stripes and WWI medals and of course his epaulette Crown..
  5. the medals worn by the " Constable " are Met/City of London 1887 jubilee with 1897 clasp, 1902 and 1911 Coronation medals. The helmet, badge and uniform are not from either Force and my best guess would be photographic or theatrical studio props. PS, the cap badge on left is Royal Artillery and that on right appears to be Army Service corps but very blurred, neither badge are local to a particular area.
  6. Just over a week ago I was doing my usual round of on net medal dealers sites when I came across two QEII Police Exemplary Service medals to a husband and wife of the Merseyside Police, Sergt Joseph McLoughlin and his Wife Const Mavis McLoughlin. I quickly purchased this pair and began to investigate. Joseph was born in Liverpool c 1935/6 and probably served world war II. He joined the Liverpool City Police c.1946 and was later promoted to Sgt 8"B" at Prescot Street Police Station and when the designation "B" was given to Bootle in 1967 as a consequence of the Bootle/Liverpool amalgamation. Jo
  7. Sorry, fat finger syndrome, it should read after 1976 not 1986. I think the cardboard boxes ceased mid to late 70's early 80's.
  8. Hi BJW, As far as I am aware the W in WPC/WPS was not to be used after the integration of genders in 1986 and would account for the "offending" letter being expunged from the box of issue. Regarding use of Police, there are many instances of a Constable not being a Police Constable. Parish Constable, Cathedral Constable, Special Constable Etc. These titles were in existence long before organised Policing. Peter
  9. Although my interest is in the main Liverpool City PoliceI have acquired this medal to Sergeant Wingrave, Metropolitan Police accompanied by a poignant locket belonging to his daughter and pertaining to her brother Fred who died in service with Norwich City Police. I have not yet researched the items but thought the News cuttings would be of interest.
  10. Many Thanks Hucks, Will do that. Sorry for late reply have been away.
  11. Could anyone assist with information on a Northern Ireland Campaign Medal to Pte 24724232 Thomas Robert Herbert Aicken, UDR Died as result of Road Traffic Accident age 23 on 11th August 1987. and is buried in Clandeboye cemetery Bangor,County Down with other family members. He is on the Northern Ireland Veterans Memorial and National Roll of Honour but more intriguingly he is also listed on the Armed Forces Memorial which is reserved for those killed on duty or by terrorist action so presumably Thomas was on patrol duties. There is also another UDR soldier killed in similar manner on
  12. I am eager to obtain information on the 1 Heavy Regiment Royal Artillery and two men who were KIA 8th August 1944 in the Falaise Gap/Pocket. They are buried in a joint grave at Ranville Leslie J Brown of London Kenneth Evason of Wallasey Any information of the circumstances of death would be welcome. Thanks Peter
  13. I found the list of Canadian MC/MM winners interesting. For years I had a single BWM to Lt Macagy MC, MM in my swaps tin my wife having bought it for £1.00 at a bric-a-brac stall in the 80's. I part exchanged it to a dealer in Scotland during 2014 so it is out there. Unfortunately in all the years I had it I saw neither sight nor sound of his other medals which I presume are split up too, but hopefully not.
  14. Hi Kvetch, Welcome to forum. The above is a bold statement, I have been collecting for over 50 years and never ever seen evidence of such a practice in collecting circles or operationally (In one of the toughest areas of Policing) although I have heard criminal elements boasting of such items being used on them . I stand to be corrected but would vouchsafe that this idea is stuff of nonsense and an insult to the professional Police officer of the past. I can't think of a more silly idea than a Police officer spending time drilling a Baton, filling it with hot lead/ or bar and the
  15. Hello Nicolas, Thank you so much for the information. Regards Peter
  16. I seek any information on WWI P le M winner Dr Walter Von Delius in particular Unit of service and any other decorations he may have. In addition doe anyone have similar information on WWI Iron Cross 2nd class winner, Rudolph Delius of the Imperial German Navy. Many Thanks Peter
  17. Keith has only served for 20 years so can't qualify for longest serving (Yet) but may rank with some of the oldest but I think he is behind many of the old Borough Chief Constables who remained in post until carried out. Upon the amalgamation of Liverpool City Police with Bootle Borough Police the Staff Officer of the Newly formed Liverpool and Bootle Constabulary discovered that many of the Special Constables of all ranks in Bootle were in their 70's & 80's and were "Let Go" in line with the then age limit of 60/65 implemented by L&B.
  18. I don't know if it qualifies but in Liverpool until approx mid 70's there was a 1st, 2nd and 3rd Police Reserve. Those in the First Police Reserve after " Retirement" would simply carry on as Constable's and I had the dubious honour to meet a really grumpy one in 1970 when he was on enquiry office duty at Tuebrook Police Station of the by then Liverpool and Bootle Constabulary. He was sporting the ribbons of the WWI War and Victory Medal. He had joined the Liverpool City Police in 1919 in response to the call for replacements for the 900 and odd dismissed strikers. If you overlook the fact th
  19. Hi Dave, Will bear you in mind should I spot something that may be of interest. I Collect Victorian Met and Liverpool City Police Items. Regards Peter Dellius (Deelibob)
  20. I have only seen one of these in the flesh before and that was c 1974 in Macclesfield Police Station Canteen and it was on a Bobbies key ring. Not a common item There is a specimen on e-bay at the Moment 10.15am 2/3/19 with 1 hour 30 mins to go with a bit of interest being shown. 4 Bidders at present. Peter
  21. When the Police Exemplary Service Medal (LS&GC) came into being 1951. All officers serving with the requisite time served (22 Years) got it so if John Hughes joined say 1920'2 and was still serving 1951 then he got the medal. This happened in all forces and Liverpool City Police must have got hit for hundreds of the awards ( There being over 1000 joining in 1919 alone to bolster ranks after the Strike) I work on the assumption that everyone gets 15 minutes of fame (I am still waiting for mine) and so had a look at John Hughes and he may be one and the same as, John HUGHES, born 10:
  22. My Oldest Station was Westminster Road, Liverpool. Built 1885. Initially "E" Division Liverpool City Police, "B" Division Liverpool and Bootle Constabulary and later "A" Dvision Merseyside. Closed 1984 (Pity it didn't make a century) Regards
  23. Whilst perusing the web site of Cairn Castle Militaria I came across this group and thought it may be of interest to members of this thread. The Price is not stated but will be supplied by the vendor upon request
  24. further to above Tom's Mother was Eliza Ann Wilkin nee Morris. They were married 1900.
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