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Alan Baird

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  1. The Incident...………………… At approximately 4 to 5pm on the 28th of November in 1903, William Theodore Males enters the Magpie Public House which is located at 12 New Street, Bishopsgate Street. William has a strong build and is over five feet and ten inches in height. He is known to the manager of the Public House because he lives nearby. William is very drunk and therefore they refused to sell him any more drink. William becomes very abusive and uses obscene language and then refused to leave the premises. At approximately 5.40pm District Inspector Chapman is informed of the situation and attends the Magpie Public House. District Inspector Chapman with the assistance of the Public House manager, manages to remove William from the premises. The Inspector then accompanies William home and tells him to, ''go upstairs to his wife/home.'' Being of unsound drunk mind, William then abuses his wife when she opens the front door and then returns to the Magpie Public House. This time District Inspector Chapman brings along a Police Sergeant with him to the Magpie Public House and with great difficulty and much violence and swearing they take William Theodore Males back to the Police Station. A doctor is called to confirm that William is indeed suffering from intoxication. William Theodore Males fate is sealed and he is later formally ''required to resign.'' But there is a happy ending to the story because in the England Census of 1911, William Theodore Males is employed as a, ''Persian carpet salesman'' and he is still living with his wife and family. The funny thing is that they are still residing at the family home at 3/4 New Street, near the Magpie Public House and so the question would be ''does he still frequent the Magpie Public House.'' Alan.
  2. William Theodore Males. Discipline and Punishment Records...……………….. 5/1/1899. 2 minutes late for the 7.45am muster and using improper language to his sergeant. [Forfeit 3 days leave.] 22/2/1899. Late 19 minutes at the 5.40am muster. [Promotion retarded during the Commissioner's pleasure.] I sure they would only have had a pocket watch available, to ensure they woke up on time, to prepare and then get to their work. Maybe neighbours also knocked on each others doors to ensure individuals were awake. No radio alarm clocks in those days so it is understandable that mistakes are going to be made but discipline is discipline. These are more minor offences. 22/2/1902. Being inside the Girlder's Arms Public House for the purposes of drinking whilst on duty. [Fined 5 shillings.] Rather silly and Police Constable 881 Edward Watkins also suffered a similar fate on several occasions. 5/7/1903. Quarrelling and fighting with Police Constable 115 Gough whilst on duty and in plain clothes. [Not to be employed on plain clothes duty.] This appears to be the start of more serious offences. It would be interesting to know if Police Constable 115 Gough had the same punishment placed in his record. This offence seems to be a much more serious. It would obviously effect his chances of promotion and I believe there were additional allowances for those Policemen serving on plain clothes duties. 28/11/1903.Drunk and disorderly in the Magpie Public House, 12 New Street whilst in plain clothes and off duty. [Required to Resign.] There is much more to this story but I will add it in separately. I have attached both the discipline record sheets of both William T Males and Edward Watkins.
  3. Hi Mike, With the City of London Police medals you often have their rank, collar number, initials and surname, engraved around the rim of the medal. Therefore when you contact the ''Enquiry Team at the London Metropolitan Archives,'' you already possess a lot of information to identify that particular individual. If you are making an enquiry regarding ''George Horne'' I would suspect you would need to include a time-frame from within which they could then search. But ''George Horne'' must have been a senior member of the City of London Police and this could help to narrow the search because you are only looking at those in this higher level. If ''George Horne'' was given the tipstaff, then again this was probably awarded in the latter part of his career and this fact may help you to narrow down the search period a little. If their computer records throw up a number of ''George Horne's'' I think your man might stand out quite well. Alan.
  4. It will be easier to deal with his ''Rewards & Commendation'' first and then later list his punishments. These actions give an insight into the man himself...…... 24/6/1896. Awarded ten shillings for courageous conduct in stopping a runaway horse. [always a very dangerous situation - well done William Theodore Males] 23/7/1900. Commended for intelligence shown in bringing to justice a man who had committed a robbery on G.N.Ry. [Great Northern Railway]
  5. Here are some general details about Police Constable William Theodore Males directly from his City of London records. William Theodore Males was born in Hitchin, in Hertfordshire, in 1874. William also served in the 1st Hertfordshire Volunteer from August of 1888 to March in 1893. There is a previous entry on this thread that also gives his family details etc. Later I will include his commendations/punishments records because it might be interesting to examine them against the commendations/punishments records of Police Constable 881 Edward Watkins.
  6. Hi, I always thought that both the City of London Police and the Metropolitan Police would have done many things in a similar fashion/manner. For example, when Police Constable 881 Edward Watkins joined the City of London Police, he started as a Police Constable Class 3...…..and obviously by gaining experience and over time he became a Police Constable Class 2 and finally a Police Constable Class 1. This is the same rank/pay structure that was also used by the Metropolitan Police. After each increase in the individuals Class within the rank of Police Constable, this would result in an increase in the weekly pay of that Police Constable. Police Constable 108 William Theodore Males joined the City of London Police on the 22nd of June in 1894 and was ''forced to resign'' on the 30th of November in 1903. Therefore Police Constable 881 Edward Watkins and Police Constable 108 William Theodore Males careers overlapped for approximately 2 years, from 1894 to 1896. It is interesting to note that when Police Constable 108 William Theodore Males joined the City of London Police in 1894, there were now 7 levels of pay within the rank of Police Constable. The initial joining level and then advancing to level 6 and then eventually up to level 1. It took Police Constable 108 William Theodore Males approximately 6 years to reach the level 1 pay scale. I have included two photographs which highlight the above.
  7. Hi, Because I love history, the great thing for me...…...is that I now know what kind of truncheon this is and when and what it was used for. It is already back in a plastic box, under a bed, in a spare bedroom. My wife hates history and if she found it in the electrical cupboard, she would throw it out. [ha, ha.] I much appreciate your assistance. Alan.
  8. Hi, Many thanks for the information, much appreciated. It does have, what appears to be, very old bumps and bruises at the head of the truncheon. I could imagine somebody hitting the wooden boarding within the trench with the truncheon especially if they were frustrated etc. That is obviously, just speculation. I found a picture of a WW1 trench truncheon so I will add it on to this entry. Again many thanks, Alan.
  9. Hi, I know absolutely nothing about truncheons but the post, ''earliest Metropolitan Police truncheons,'' gives examples of how stunning the Police truncheons can be - very impressive. That post made me think, ''what might a truncheon look like...……. that was potentially used for criminal purposes.'' A truncheon that is designed to inflict serious damage to anybody, it is used against. If you carry such a weapon, then obviously, you are probably prepared to use such a weapon. This is an evil looking truncheon, simple design, cheap and extremely effective. The truncheon I have photographed is approximately 18'' long, has a lead filled centre and to ensure maximum damage has been fitted with groups of three metal studs around the head of the truncheon. I can't remember any history of this item but I must have an information sheet somewhere in the house.
  10. Interesting stories and nice medals, look forward to your updates. Hopefully, on day you might even find his Coronation medal for 1902. ['H' divn.] Alan.
  11. Hi, Here are two more photographs :- The first one is of ''Bessidge having shot the rogue elephant.'' I am not sure of the initials...…. is it '' J & C.'' If anybody can help with his initials, I would be grateful. It might just be possible to find him in the records, if I can work out his initials. The second photograph relates to the Police on Parade in 1917.
  12. More photograhs - just another day in India...…………... [a] Mountain scene. Some kind of sports day - may have been the Police School? [c] 2 x locals/scenes. [notice photographer's shadow in photograph.] [d] 2 x man missing trousers - so they did have a sense of humour. Alan.
  13. The crocodiles were at an animal sanctuary near Cape Town in South Africa. You had to cross over a pond/pool by a narrow bridge and the crocodiles were often underneath the structure. Usually they would wait until a few women were crossing and then they would suddenly shake the bridge mechanically. They were never in danger of falling into the pool but you were in danger of going deaf because of their screams. It was a cruel trick but it did appeal to my sense of humour. [ha, ha]. They had a café there and served various unusual meats but definitely not elephant. Alan.
  14. Actually, I would have thought that the poor or local villagers would have taken the elephant meat. Imagine how many families it could have fed. They probably could have easily preserved the meat to keep it good. Yet I have never seen a photograph etc showing elephants being cut up for their meat. Maybe in India in the 1920's etc it was considered inappropriate to eat such meat. I also remember recently reading........that in Central Africa , the elephant meat is so prized, that this is now the greatest risk to the elephants survival in these area's. Alan. P.S I have actually eaten crocodile before. It was only small pieces of meat but can't remember what it tasted like but my wife said it was like a mixture of chicken and fish. Maybe elephant also tastes like chicken and fish.
  15. Hi Paul, I better not tell me wife what your said...….she would sell the lot tomorrow. Most of the photographs are scenic but here are just a few ….showing a group touring and what happens to a rogue elephant. Alan.
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