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Could it be, that he wears no SB because of the disguise (i used Google Translator, i mean Tarnung in German)

That the enemy couldn`t see, that he`s a higher NCO or officer`s rank?????

I see a "J" on the right "Kragen" - and may be a regimental pin on the left.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Thelen

Hi thanks a lot.

May be the personnel was "secret" - because of the experiments of the RLM (?)

Does anybody have a Luftwaffe Rankliste ?

Hi, thanks for your reply you 2.

Here we have a pic of the backside.

Some warm words for Leo...

Münsterlager = i think it could be a POW camp?

The region is Northern France.

Hi !

I need more infos about

Oberst (Colonel) in 1944 - Robert Thelen (* 23.3.1884 in Nürnberg)

Thelen served in the Reichsluftfahrtministerium in Berlin

between 1935-1944 as a constructor.

1944: retired - later died in GDR.

Would be good, to see a photo of him in uniform.

Which decorations did he earn between 1935 - 44 ?

I would bet in WW2: KVK, Wehrmacht LSM/LSC and may be flower medal(s.)

Thanks for help!

@ Dave/Daniel :

What about a combination with

-IC non combatant

-prussian war aid cross

-Anhalt Friedrichscross for combatants

-Hamburg Hanseatic cross

-Ehrenkreuz für Kriegsteilnehmer

- LSM XII

Do you have possible candidates ?

I would bet, some kind of MIlitärbeamter in a lower rank.

Hello !

Recently i got some new photos

The shown pic was written in France in 1918.

Now, i would have some questions:

-Which rank? I think NCO

-Is he an infanterist, or Jäger ?

One the right collar i can see an "J".

His name is Emil. He`s wearing a 2 place ribbon bar.

I think IC & Baden MKFV (Militär Karl Friedrich)

Thanks for help.

I ve had a few possible candidates for that bar.

I think it is very hard to find that o n e guy for 100 % .

I.m.o. it is a late unnamed Godet bar and made in the late 1930s or early 1940s.

I think, in that time he was Stabszahlmeister or Oberstabszahlmeister. (Intendant) and he finished his service than.

Hi !

I am looking for more infos about

Stabsarzt Dr. Fischer (later Oberstabsarzt) in Ulm  (kingdom of Wuerttemberg)

I know that he was decorated with

-Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71 (i do not know  "combatant" or non combatant")

- Bayerisches Verdienstkreuz für 1870/71

Are there more infos about him  - especially i would like to know if he was still alive in around 1914/18

and if he got more decorations (for example Friedrichsorden knight)

Thank you very much.

Hi,  i saw it at Zeige.

I don`t want to say, that the medal could be fake - i did not like the finish but may be i am wrong with it.

The ribbon bar was also sold at Zeige with some others.

I know where the bar came from. It was a longer time on his page.

I did not buy it, because i wasn`t sure about the finish of the HSVM. 

My stomach says: Zahlmeister guy (paymaster)

I did a research on that bar  - for 95 % - i would say it was  "Mesecke"  - Art. Dep. Insp. Berlin - born 1874 (as i still can ID my handwritten notes...)

The problem is, that also Siekmann doesn`t show all "lower" decorations as many other sources.

Thanks to all. - Wow Dave - Mr. Data - that´s great. Thank you. - so KIA in 1916.

I.m.o. the MVO4X is a piece of around 1916 - it would be great, if Andreas could have a look on it.

Hi, Danke - thank you to all.

#1 - is it a guy of IR 15 - an infanterist?

#2 - no, unfortunately no date, no name, no unit.  I think it´s a photo taken at "home".

No one an idea?

Thanks.

Thank you very much.

Did you ever see a bar with it?

I have sources between 1914/18 - they only show  a handfull recipients.

I have never seen such a piece hanging on a bar

Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern auch als besondere Auszeichnungen mit goldenen Löwen, seit 1864 auch mit Krone

(knight`s cross w. swords & golden lion)

I know that for example Major Karl Hieronymus Kdr. of FAR 51

earned his "lions" on 14.6.1917

Wiki says: 80 recipients - what are the sources about it - Nimmergut?

I agree Andreas.

HI - here one of my collection.

I bought it especially because of his interesting "vita".

Bracher earned his GMVM early in 1915 as Lt. in IR 121 - later he got the MVO.  He was wounded several times. The pic shows him as 1st Lt. and with silvered wound badge - so it must have been taken in 1918.

In WW2 he was officer of 260 ID - my uncle Willy fought with them in russia.

He was POW in a russian camp till 1954 and high decorated.

Nice, that his bar is still existing.

https://wordpress.260id.de/?page_id=161

zähringer 46.tif

Hi to all !

Here some of my new ones.

I would have some questions about the pics:

-  The shown Lt. has the number 15 on his shoulderboard - does it mean, he served in the 15 IR?

He wears a Pickelhaube - not a M 16 or later steel helmet. When i look at the MVO 4th class with X

i think (because of the swords) it is a piece of 1916 or later - the combination with Lippe is uncommon - sothe earliest date

for this pic would be that time.

The pic was made by Atelier Kegel (i found a Kegel Hoffotograph with shop in Wuppertal (prussia) and Kassel (hessia)).

Can anybody confirm, that the shown uniform is bavarian?

#2 :

Seems like a military official in a staff officier´s rank. (because of his shoulderboards?????)

Unfortunately no name and no date as on pic #1.

Can anybody confirm, that this guy has an official`s rank - if yes, that combination -for me - is interesting (with twm & IC 1st class)

Thanks again!

zähringer 45.tif zähringer 48.tif

Yes,  you can find them on pics around ~ 1900 or earlier - but sometimes also on pics of WW1 times.

A part of Württemberg did belong to Austria in former times - so may be that`s a reason for it.

Hi in 707, 708, 709 and some other numbers you can find some curiosities as trifold ribbons, rare combinations and other nice stuff - also of prussian officers and later high decorated WW2 personnel. I have the most of that pics in my Bestand.

I have two pics with kuk war merit cross ribbon (and laurel wreath)

I would add a 2nd class or 2nd class with oaks.

The shown piece is called "Weimarer Fertigung". There are silvered & golden medals out there.

Some are thicker and some have nearly the weight of "real ones". I have a few of them.

Yes, it could be awarded for donations - the same for example as the kuk Ehrenzeichen/medaille of the red cross or the Hilal-i-ahmer

medal.

Hard to say if it is a bavarian bravery medal. Do you have a name on the back?

I am not sure, but i mean, there´s a book with pics of the recipients (i do not have it)